Interview with Akiyoshi Nakano interviewing "how explosive king" how to make a thorough lie in the movie

In addition to engaging in the Godzilla series, "Capital Disappearance", "Union Fleet", etc. as a special skill director under the Eiji Tsuburaya skill, as well as using a large amount of gunpowder in the bombing scene, the synonym of "explosion king" Mr. Aki Nakano to take. In a young ageHiguchi ShinjiAlthough he met a boy and exerted a little influence on its special effects entertainment, this time a special project of the Japanese movie channel special "National special treasure trophyBy saying that it appeared in the show, I've been asked a lot about the story of the part that did not come out during the program.

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GIGAZINE (hereinafter, G):
Mr. Nakano and Mr. Shingori Higuchi were surprised that Mr. Higuchi was a acquaintance from the time he came to the studio as a junior high school student, and this kind of connection also exists.

Aki Nakano (Nakano):
Mr. Higuchi inside me, I am doing another cameramanKeiichi SakuraiThere is a person called Mr., but I will always be with him. He also went to the studio as he came out from Hokkaido or somewhere on a school trip and I told him I told you that I started special effects and I am doing a photographer now. That man and Higuchi will be together in my head.

G:
Mr. Nakano is doing American football in middle school and high school and he seems to be "wanting to study a movie" at university, but I think that from sportsmen to movies is a daring turning point. When was the movie first touched?

Nakano:
The first time I caught a movie was when I was in elementary school. My father was detained in Siberia, so bags and I caught them in Showa 27 in 1945. So, I rely on my relatives to settle down in Niihama, Ehime Prefecture. Speaking of entertainment at that time, there were 6 movie theaters in local cities such as Niihama, with movies. That was Shochiku, Daiei, Toho, Shin Toho and Toei companies, and then a foreign painting specialty hall. So my father had not come back yet, so my mother used to work for the current welfare section of the company Sumitomo Chemical. So I was dealing with cinema discount tickets, so I became familiar with the movie theater with that relationship, so I watched six movies every week at ("huh! Ask me! Ask!").

G:
Huh, it is amazing that six weeks a week. What works were good at the movies you saw at that time, what are the works that remain in the impression?

Nakano:
This is a movie called "seven faces" no matter what. I guess I do not know who I am now,Chiezo KataokaThere were a long time ago actor. This person playedTadao InuiThe detective is a hero's detective movie, but this is the Toei later in the yearKobayashi AsahiYou are doing. If you say why you like this, you think you know this too, but ... "In addition, one driver is a one-eyed driver, that entity is Fujimura Daisen!" Yes. That over thereKenzoro Toyamawhat.


That triggered the creation of that "seven faces", at that time, GHQ "At the time theater is the authorization of feudal education in Japan, if you show such things to the Japanese again, it might make a noise as" Try the United States! " I thought it would be troublesome ", so I issued a ban on making a historical drama. So our seniors issued "seven faces" as "How about this if you can not make a historical drama?" This is exactly a historical drama. Maj. General of justice of Daisuke Fujimura shoots with donpaditon. That is a two-handed pistol, which is a two-blade sword when it is called Chambera. So, why is it to avoid the shots that the bad one shoots (laugh). This is really cool. Pan panpan shoot and shoot and avoid it. Then, the bombshell glows to the side beside. This is exactly a chamberra, all the settings are historical dramas. So, it is our seniors who smiled at GHQ's female inspector, saying, 'Well, is this OK?'

G:
It is a great bargain ...

Nakano:
It seems like "Is there a fool to avoid bullets in a contemporary drama?" (Laugh) This is a real fun movie. That's why we made four such pieces so far with "seven faces" "thirteen eyes" "twenty-one fingerprints" "thirty-three footprints". After that, I went to Toei and did some work, I guess Akira Kobayashi did the last person. It is such a pretty movie. So, when asked "What is the fun of a movie?" I said "I have seven faces right now". That seniors are awesome, says that it was a historical drama made in a dignified manner in response to "It is time to leave!" As it was said "Do not make a historical drama!" So, the senior of this neighbor, the vitality, vitality, commitment ...... They were the foundation of the fun of the movie, it was the foundation. In the sense that there are such seniors, I love "seven faces".

G:
I see.

Nakano:
And another thing, when I was 11 years old I thought, "This woman is beautiful ..."Mizuko TakamineMr. This person is singing a song carefully, but this is the music trilogy, and Mr. Mikie Takamine starring "Nostalgic blues"Farewell tango"Passionate RumubaStill, when I look at this, I feel something that was fascinating at the time. Takamine is the first actress I felt somehow felt as a child. "Oh, I thought that the movie where such a beautiful person can be seen is amazing". That's why I always list the "Seven Faces" series and Mr. Mikie Takamine's music series.


So the fact that I was watching a movie everyday became a machine, and the existence of the movie itself became enormously close. I guess it is certainly a middle school time, but in a Japanese textbook "Spring of KojimaThere was a scenario of the movie called "movie scenario. This is exactly a scenario, so there are ways of expression unique to that scenario, ie fade-outs and fade-in techniques, but the teacher does not know what that means. That's why I've written FI here, but this is a sign of something ... "I said" I am different, I am a teacher! "I finally remember explaining what I explained .

G:
"This is called fade-in".

Nakano:
"This is what fade-in is, this is fade-out, this is overlap" This is it. Because the movie was familiar, as long as "Third man"I saw" I will play a movie! " Because the orchestra was common sense though movie music until "the third guy", that work wasA chitarIn one musical instrument, the last scene is the performance of the chitar. When I thought that movies that impressed people with this are what they had already decided "I'm going to do!".


G:
Certainly, the theme song of "The Third Man" is light, it has flowed in the last scene and there was a feeling like "Do you end up with this music?"

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Nakano:
right? Is not it? But that is pretty impressed. Why is it so moved by this, I decided to think that movies are amazing.

G:
Since Mr. Nakano was entered into the screenwriting course of the university, I was wondering why I thought about studying the script, but indeed it is said that the scenario was on the textbook ... ....

Nakano:
I knew that it was a scenario, and after all I thought that it would be useless if I could not write a scenario that is a blueprint beyond doing a movie.

G:
At that time, I was told that part-time jobs and drama scenarios were written.

Nakano:
Yes, I was doing that. My teacher was busy at the time and there were things that the number might not be in time every week as it is, and I was doing a lot with that support.

G:
Indeed, that's what it is. When joining Toho, Mr. Higuchi pointed out that "Competition rate was high?" Although I was pointed out, was he thinking of entering one of the movie companies from the beginning in finding a job?

Nakano:
Oh yeah, I was good at any film company. By chance, when I graduated I was the Toho because I was the earliest entrance examination when I graduated and it was not because I chose "I like Toho" and I did not enter (laugh), anywhere I could do movies I'm relaxed.


G:
I see. I entered the field and was in charge of special effects movies as assistant director / supervisor assistant in the form of studying with Eiji Tsuburaya from 1959 to 1969, but Mr. Nakano himself did not want to take special effects, but was going to make it Or did not it.

Nakano:
That's right. At that time, there was an opinion at the assistant bureaucracy that it would not be impossible for the personnel affairs of the company to decide who will become the director. The Assistance Committee is a cheeky group, and there are things like "I would like to do this assistant director by all means" by the director, so I decided to arrange the locations evenly so that everyone at the Assistant Committee will not quarrel. For example, if you are Akira Kurosawa, everyone will want to have it. I chose that kind of freedom, but it was the Tsuburaya group that everyone disliked in that. It is a team that was in charge of special shooting, but in short, "The job you are doing is dirty", "I do not know what you are doing" "Tire." So everyone else said that Tsuburaya got away. When I happen to enter as a newly appointed assistant director, "I came to the right place! It is the opportunity to go to Tsuburaya from tomorrow!" It is the beginning.

G:
I see.

Nakano:
"Submarine a -57 No surrenderIt was the first time I saw Mr. Tsuburaya with a movie called "Tsuburaya." After that I also did with Mr. Mikio Naruse and I did with Mr. Okamoto Kihachi and I did not expect to do special effects never in common with most Toho director, but somehow Tsuburaya's From the side I got nominated "Next time this assistant director, please say that." At the assistant bureaucrat, it is at the assistant bureaucrat, that the nomination from the director is a gold medicinal rule, a crest of Aoi of the crowd, there is nothing better than this, "Sora nominations came, come on, come see us! It is said that if it was done according to the nomination while being told something like "I should!"

G:
Who was Tsuchiya Eiji-san?

Nakano:
This is also difficult, I'm often asked .... I am a certain kind, I think Tsuburaya is a genius. Tsunya is a man who makes up everything from scratch. That's why even in a movie. In the era when the movie was still said to be an active photograph, "Is it interesting to do this with activity photos" or "Do you want to play that kabuki that play?" Or "Why do not you try using this novel?" Or, as everyone tried and errored, I was gradually working on the basis of activity photography and I was able to make movies, but in the era of that kind of person "what on earth is it good for? Because it is doing from the silent era when there is neither sound nor dialogue.

Naturally, there is neither a script nor a play. Anyway, in a historical drama, at Chambera also saying "Please call some actors," gather people and there is not any story, so give instructions like "get a bit cool" from the side . Then the actor is in trouble too. "Well it is a celestial ... ..." I want to decide the speech, but there is nothing I can say, so if I played silently and then I said, "Okay, then you have not heard a voice." When asked "Well what do you say?", Tsuburaya said "Please say" Teke Let's No Pappers! " This "Tecke Let 's No Pepper" is often a pretext that Mr. Tsuburaya says, but this is a mock headtone like a tatto - selling to use with outside marketing as "Good - Teke Let' s No Pappers". Tsuburaya also said that he is in a good mood, "Haha, I am Tecque Let's No Pappa today, I guess I should go home" then I used it for the wind. When I say how to shoot a movie, "Would you like to make a camera?" "I want to go to a high place in shooting, then why do not you make a crane," you guys from there. Movie worldHorizontEven the picture of the background of the set called the film set was poor in sensitivity and the background was all taken outside outside indoors, so it was more convenient to do it indoors and it will not miss the take Tsun Tani's idea came up. "What is Horizont?" When asking, "Draw a mountain and draw sky" Anyhow I'm doing it from scratch.


Young people now can do everything, but I think Tsuburaya is a genius because I am thinking about what to do one by one to think about what to do one by one. Tsuburaya had a title of a special skill director, but I thought that I was a director. Actually, Ms. TsuburayaIchimaruMr. Geisha who played the leading role as a geisha singerKoba gravel bird guided cityI'm taking pictures of works like that. I can do anything because I am such a person. You did something you could not do. "When you go to war and you can not do shooting, then what shall we do?" Then, "Make a gear set and do it with explosives". So, "special effects" I said from a little while ago is not a special shoot. That is just a directing technique, that is to use that technique because I want this in this movie.

G:
No, I see.

Nakano:
One point that Mr. Tsuburaya is an idea man, for example, maybe a skater who seems to be a vehicle that a child "automatic skate" kicks with with one foot.

G:
Roller Through GOGOIs it like something?

Nakano:
That is also the invention of Mr. Tsuburaya (Edited by: invention invented around 1917). Then "Tsunakata", when the child pushed and moved, animals and others came out and the sounds sounded, and that was made by Tsuburaya. In other words, it is not just movies. When I just happened to appear in Tokyo and I was working part time at a toy factory, what Tsunetan designed was selling. So I was glad that "I sold!" Because I got a lot of money, I took all the workers who worked at the factory at the time and all the members, I was watching the cherry blossoms at the park in Ueno, where the producer of the movie You see me. Ha ha ha ha ha!


G:
Wow, that is a great encounter.

Nakano:
Because Tsuburaya was such a person, he is a person who likes movies and enters "Do movie". I really want to get on an airplane and I want to go to the flight school in Kumagaya so I came out to Tokyo, so my dream was a pilot. Even if I enter any world, I feel like I'm doing everything and doing the movie world well enough so I think Tsuburaya is a genius. In a nutshell I can only say that way.

G:
indeed……. As Mr. Tsuburaya invented from the beginning, Mr. Nakano said that when he was in charge of the "Union Fleet", "I was able to express Isoha for the first time."

Nakano:
Since the battleship Yamato is the leading role in the movie of "Union Fleet", you must show battleship Yamato cool. What a battleship Yamato looks cool is what makes the background of sea all after all. You should not seem to run on the Tarai with this. Then, I thought that cool waves were something. What I also thought is that the "cool waves" are, for example, the "Forty-six Scenic Views" by Katsushika HokusaiKanagawa Okinawa, Mt. Fuji is drawn small in the back, and there are large waves drawn in front. It will be the wave for surfing now. Surfing is also cool with the Doodododo and the waves are so cool that if it is a small wave like Pachang ...... Pachin ...... Surfing can not be done, just a ripple spreading only round the surface of the water. That's why I started with the fundamental idea of ​​making waves for surfing.

So, starting with "Where is the wave in the first place", I started studying from the waveform studies. Then the wave has the generation order. The start of the wave is "wind". That's why it's windy. Wandering is that the wind blows over the sea and the sea level becomes wrinkled. Also, waves are propagating. The radio waves are also so, if there are high obstacles like Roppongi Hills on the way, the radio waves will become strange. In short, there are obstacles in the radio because there is a nature that reflects on waves when hitting things. But the wave strikes me. The waves that were made in the ocean are pushing toward the land soon. At that time, the waves that can be done with the coast and quay are different. The waves that stumbled on the quay wall return to Bonn and return, "returning wave", but it is shaped. I can do it at this time with a triangle wave called a standing wave, I guess if you are fishing, you can understand it, but if you are fishing near the quay, this kind of wave is standing. That's the "cool waves" I said from a while ago, but this is a wave called Isogi, which can be on the beach, the coast.

The wave propagates from the offing coast and soaks in the coast "Oooooh" and in a smooth place it finally goes back losing power. Then, the thing that comes back depresses the stomach of the next wave, so it will become the dress for that surfing wave. Everywhere waves drawn by Mr. Painter, Mr. Ishiwa are all around the world. Because Isogan can be done on the coast, it can not be done in the middle of the Pacific Ocean, so the cool waves you think can only be done at the beach. So, although it is said that "Ocean is wide and big big" and "Opposite you want to go" with a nursery rhyming "Ocean", but this is a child who saw a cool wave and "What is there in the back?" It's cool because I commit my dreams to it, and it's only a chaotic spot of water just to wander around when I actually go. To everybody so much, everyone is cool and I think that I will make this island waves, so I blow the wind into the pool with a fan and hit the wall of the pool and use the power of the wave to turn into a triangle wave In order to scoop this, I installed a fuel pump in the water further, and it gulls down the lower side. In other words, if you make a standing wave and embellish under it, it becomes an island waves.


G:
I see……!

Nakano:
So much I wanted the ocean in the background of battleship Yamato to be cool. Therefore, I would appreciate it if you think that it is "cool".

G:
It is a commitment to making cool pictures. When I looked at it as a picture in the work I've been working on so far, do you have a job called "Oh, are you getting better than you thought?"

Nakano:
Not!


G:
Is not it?

Nakano:
There is not even one.

G:
Does that mean "I should have done more!"

Nakano:
"More like this was better!", All points are points of reflection. That's why I always say "masterpiece is next time".

G:
When I review the image all the time, it is "Oh, I wish I had done this ah!"

Nakano:
"What are you doing!?" "This is not this!" So, at best, 60 is the highest point among me. After that it is already 30 points, 40 worlds, I wonder, it is all reflection point. There is nothing satisfied.


G:
I see.

Nakano:
However, there are various things that I think I'm tired, I was toil with you, or I do not like it anymore. I can not be satisfied.

G:
For example, in the third episode of National Treasures National Treasures, "Capital Disappearance" is handled, but also in the clouds covering Tokyo that comes out here, do you have a feeling "could you do a little more like this"?

Nakano:
Yes, that's right. That color is nice, shape and nice ... Also, the expression in the movie. There are lots of reflection points.

G:
The place to drill the hole at the end is something "Oh, the clouds are hollowing! It's hollowed!" I am thrilled, but the goal is high.

Nakano:
is not it. Well, it will be easier as CG can be used now. Anyway, the world I've done is an analog and it's hand-made from scratch.

G:
I am going to be the last question, but what is the commitment I have in my work?

Nakano:
"Plausibility, great lie". The lie is to not lie if you lie thoroughly, it is said to be stuck up to where. It is also the story of the wave just before, but if you stick to the wave thoroughly it will be Oh. So, I think that making images is sticky and sticky, I think that it is useless unless there is a commitment. Director Higuchi said, "I want to stick, but I can not afford it," I told you what it is, there are a lot of hard things to do there (laugh), but the final is pretty sticky after all. I think that it is a game to say how stuck up to where. Everyone who is said to have "masterpieces" that the people of big seniority are doing is extremely of this commitment.

G:
When creating a new image, keep commitment, the next is 100 points.

Nakano:
The thing I want to do most is the second world war seen from the eyes of children when I was 10 to 11 years old. What I am talking about is whether it is an adult world or an anti-war movement, "war is not good," "painful" or "toddyo" or something, but when I was a child I was saying " It is a son of the Emperor born in Japan, it is natural that you are already educated like "You are the way you live by devoting your life to the Emperor" There is a word like "demonic animals rice" which means that America and the UK are demons, and there are still places left there still. Who the adult who educated such a child was, was it good to do such a thing? I want to do now to say war seen from the eyes of children including such eyes.


G:
I see.

Nakano:
Maybe it could be a masterpiece when it was possible.

G:
I see! Up to now it is 60 at the highest, but next ... ...

Nakano:
By all means, 70 points (haha)

G:
The point is severe (lol) Thank you for talking about today.

Nakano:
No it was fun. Thanks.

Recording was doneHara Railway Model MuseumDirected by Higuchi and Nakano who lined up the huge layout of the most gauges.


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