Interview about Mr. Fumiko Manaka, a puppet animation artist, about Mr. Tenhito Tenno's ancestry of Japanese stereoscopic animation and production technique

Special effects drama "Comet"Mascot monster's Betan andImperial storyA formula god, Lol Fukutei laugh bottle says her cold medicine "contact"Mr. Contac, NTT docomo's"Docomodake",IsodineThe parent and child of hippopotamus, etc. It is the animation author who is handling a wide range of doll animationFumiko ManakaMr.

Since Mr. Manaka was going to appear as the second guest of "Special Screen National Treasure" this time, Mr. Manaka gave me the opportunity to start puppet animation from the way how to make a work It is a person and also the founder of Japan's three-dimensional animationTadahito ToshinagaI asked about various stories, such as about Ms.

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GIGAZINE (hereinafter, G):
Mr. Manaka and Ms. Animation encountered themselves as a byte destination of my school days, and the one I encountered at this time was Mr. Toshinin Tenneni of "Puppet Movie Manufacturing Division". It is nice to say that it is the ancestor of Japanese puppet animation, but what kind of person was it?

Fumiko Manaka (hereinafter, true):
Personality?

G:
Well, I hope I can tell you how I was about my work.

true:
Anyway, he was a kind person and was a person who absolutely insisted that "I am yourself". Although I was indebted to Mr. Toshinaga, some people did not say Mr. Tensei as if I had grown up alone by themselves, but also for those who said "Yeah, that's fine. It was said that "It is. It is such a person, it is surprisingly unknown.

G:
Toshinaga learned the skill of filming animation and started in Japan ... ...

true:
Mr. Tsuneyoshi is not "learned", it was made by himself. It is original.

G:
I'm sorry, I apologize because my hand data seemed wrong.

true:
originally"Momotaro Sea god soldierI was drawing an animation such as "It's amazing how good this is. Then I made my body a bit bad, went to mum's China where there was mom, where he taught animals to Chinese people. China has "Peking OperaWhen I was watching that, Mr. Tensei was very good at drawing, so I told myself how to do "do you want a doll?"


true:
Three-dimensional animation at that time is CzechTorunkaAlthough people are famous, but Mr. Tensei also starts 3D animation at the time when it is almost the same as that person. So, Toshinaga did not go somewhere and learned, but he tried and tried to make a skeleton and a joint on making a doll "Human joint is like this" by himself and made it.

G:
I see, it is when we have not had a puppet animation work yet.

true:
In that case, since both of us are thinking about the human body as the basis, we happen to have the same structure as Toruńka of the Czech Republic.

G:
It almost reached the same place in the same era.

true:
Yes Yes. Humans have a skeleton here, there are joints here, both Czech and Japanese people are the same (laugh)


G:
I am excited to find out that I was born at the same time accidentally in the East and the West.

true:
That's right. So, a person who likes Torunka but who does not know much about Mr. Tensei says that "Mr. Tensei learned a stereoscopic animation from Torunka", but that is absolutely nothing. It is a big mistake. Mr. Tensei devised it with Mr. Tensei and made a three-dimensional animation once in China before returning to Japan, and he began full-scale three-dimensional animation after returning to Japan. When I say animation of a doll in JapanKihachiro KawamotoMr. Kawamoto first taught is Mr. Tensei though Mr. Kawamoto is famous. Echo'sOkamoto TadanariAlso came to study at Mr. Tensei in graduation work of the school days. Also, Gakken's "Gakken movieHave you ever seen that?

G:
I used it as a teaching material and saw a couple of things.

true:
The reason why Gakken started doing 3D animationMamoru JimboMr. Masanaga is also teaching Mr. Jimbo, who is the one who is called. That's why Mr. Tensei is truly the biggest source of 3D solid animation in Japan. At that time, Mr. Tsuneyoshi did various things and thought about how to make a doll and how to make a good image how it would be done, but since it was done too perfectly, Even now it has hardly changed. ...... That means I have not devised it (laugh)

G:
Mr. Tensei was completely built up from the foundation ... is not it.

true:
Yes, that's right, it is a wonderful person! However, when everyone knew little, and when I was teaching in Asagaya's "small school of art / animation", few people knew Mr. Tensei. I know Torunka, but Mr. Tensei does not know ...... "Chi ー ー ー ー ー! It is quite different! I have to study Japanese to be in their own country in Japan!".


G:
It can be said that this is a wonderful culture originating in Japan.

true:
That's right, but Mr. Tsuneyoshi himself did not say a word "I taught him". There is a person who says, "That guy looked after my trouble", and some who did not say such things at all, Mr. Tensei was a person who said nothing at all.

G:
If Mr. Tensei says, it will be probable that Mr. Tensei's name came out no matter where I asked ......

true:
But I did not say too much, so I guess I'm really damaging (laugh)

G:
If you are a stereoscopic animator, it's your name that you must know.

true:
Actually I have to come out and I think I want you to say something by looking at the work, but it is too unknown.

G:
When Mr. Manaka went to a company of Mr. Tenman by part-time job, I saw the set and watching the rush and impressed that "This is this!", But that feeling still does not change at all Do you?

true:
Yes, the shock at that time is still ... ... If I say, "I did not think there was anything else?" (Laugh)

G:
It seems that life has changed a bit over here.

true:
Well ... Yes, because I was in the theater department and the Children's Culture Research Department at the time I was a student, I also wanted to do a play, but I can not help it even if I enter the talent office now, I can not remember the words (Laugh), so it's only animation already.

G:
Next, I would like to see a story about making dolls. When I make a doll, I think that it will be worked after imagining the final completed figure, but will it be put into painting once, or will move hands based on the image in the head Is it made?

true:
Of course, I first draw on my own design, of course, and I am very poor at drawing, so I draw it by a good person.

G:
Regarding movement, is it in your head?

true:
Because it's a play.

G:
Do you make a container?

true:
In the case of a long piece, there is no common language with the staff, so I make scenarios and storyboards to make my consciousness possible, but in the case of CM, for example, "This moves like this" in me I will create an image. In the case of a work, I look at the whole and draw it as a story "This and that is how it is like this".

G:
That means that in the case of a short CM, you do not know unless you ask Mr. Maka-ri to say "How did you make that movement?"

true:
I can understand it when I made it, but I guess it may not be known for a while, as much as I think "I'm moving well" (laugh)

G:
Even if you look at yourself, do you feel like 'do not move well' (lol)

true:
No, not that far, but (laugh) But it 's like she' s working quite often.

G:
When moving in the head, is there something that the character starts to move like "I am like this" rather than moving along "something like" should move like this "?

true:
Oh, it is close to that. Does this character think about what kind of movement is good and what kind of pose is good to look at the character by yourself. Also, whether it is a role of a given character, a good person or a bad person, an ordinary person, whether it is an angel or a thief and puts it in myself, so before moving it, image training It corresponds to. So, when the person starts to move, he / she will move without permission. Somewhat lie, but it's true (lol) I am not saying something godly but when I am inside it will be very pleasant and comfortable.


G:
Is it a sensation that it will become one and the same as a character?

true:
Yeah, so it's a "live feeling" as you said on the program. Sessions are different from sessions because sessions may conflict somewhere, but they seem to make characters together. I feel like I'm working live with people who are not strangers.

G:
I see. Mr. Maka-ri is flowing in a special treasure treasure this time "CometIf recently fromDocomodakeTo the CM of, we have sent out a number of hit works over a very long period of time, but is there any secret?

true:
First of all I should not be fine (lol) I can not afford to say "I can catch a cold and get a fever", although tomorrow is filming. Also, I do not care if I do not like it. It might be necessary to say "I like" because it is curious.


G:
Currently there is only one puppet animation course in JapanLittle school of art / animationI am also teaching lecturers, but what kind of things do you teach?

true:
First of all, how to make a doll. Looking at the children who like animation at various schools in rural areas, the structure is not properly constructed first. Because it is made with wires as raw materials, it is a funny work but it's often that "absolutely moving will be fun with this kind of material here." It is unexpected that there is only a waste there, "It is a person who makes such a wind like a play like this" or "How I use it makes me move without any shaking and I can move well" And that.

What I absolutely need is "Why does it move and why this character is there". At school, we will make one in the first year. At that time, I decide what the work is like, and decide what sort of place to cut from, to make a fun work or a scary work. "Well then, what is the most desirable thing to express here?" Is created by the team, so we discuss and hold a joint recognition. If so, what is the character design? I will continue with it.

G:
Although it is said that "I am wasteful because I use wires in the material", is it also important to choose the material when I make a character again?

true:
Yeah, the materials in the body are thread fuses, leads, joints made of metal, etc. There are various things, but I will let you know the importance that the material is different depending on "What kind of play do you want to do?"


G:
The age group of people who come to school is wide, and that is from those who graduate from high school to those who are around 50 years old.

true:
Some people retire retiring. Because there is a part at night, there are also people who are working while working for women, some in their 30s.

G:
Indeed, I do not care about men and women.

true:
Such that. There is no age restriction and there is no relation to educational background, and everyone who thinks "I want to do" is coming.

G:
How about biased ratio of gender, is not it much?

true:
I think that there are many women. But, this year's first-grader was about half way.

G:
At the school the site says "hand in hand animation inheritance", but how is the response?

true:
All the schools are doing their best. In addition, I want to send it to society as a job to the students "Do this, in this case you better do it like this". That opportunity is not really right now ... for example, even in commercials, the stereoscopic animation works are also in the United States and the UK. But, Japan let me make "Nutcracker"Sanrio's TsujiSince then, I have no chance. So I am glad that someone will let me make it. I do not want to make enough money to make by myself, and someone would like someone who thinks that stereoscopic animation is interesting a little.


true:
In Japan, there is still a little consciousness like "Animation is a child's thing". When I started doing it, I feel like "It's a cartoon? It's a child's life", now it's a little bit, and manga has become a little adult, though. In that sense, I would like someone to come up with a stereotype animation acknowledged a little as an adult culture.

G:
In the story of Mr. Maka-ri, I was wondering "Is that so?" That Ichinjin's CM was no longer a three-dimensional animation. Speaking of Isodin, it was an image that the parent and child doll of that baby is moving.

true:
Three-dimensional animation is decreasing, it is turning into CG of a stereoscopic animation style.

G:
I see……. Compared to digital works such as CG etc., what is the part of "unique to three-dimensional animation"?

true:
There are things like the presence, there is a smell of the individual character. Three-dimensional animation is done by one person at a time, while CG can be cleaned with PC processing at the schedule harmonized as expected. Beyond what human beings do, human emotions come in, the width of frames is slightly different somewhere, and various people are reflected in the state at that time. But, it becomes the character of the character. I think that human beings are not so much looking for too complete things. Because it is too complete I can not enter. Is not it tight to be with such things?


G:
I feel that there is no interest if it is too perfect.

true:
right? CG can do it. Some people are aiming at it, and while watching the monitor, there are people who check all of them "how long have you moved" "next time it moved". If it does so it will be beautiful as though it is CG ... but it is not that kind of thing but saying that it is absolutely fun to convey the feelings of the living human beings from the ten fingers to the doll, at our school I will not let it go. While I am at school, I have to learn a three-dimensional sense, and if I want to do it by myself, just do it by myself. I am using it whenever I have to use it by all means, but basically thinking that the task of projecting human feelings from ten fingers to a doll is animation.


true:
In that work, the animator is reflected in the person who made somewhere. It seems that the person I saw is "I know that Mr. Maka's animation", but what I have moved is that it shows my smell. I think it is a character. So, I do not dislike 3DCG and that is a tool so I do not know if I want to use somewhere. However, since I have not studied using 3D now, I can not say "I will use it from tomorrow at the moment", but in terms of expressing it is not a completely different conflict and one that can be used mutually I think. I do not know if it will probably change to that kind of wind.

G:
Just in March 2013, the first movie I went character projector with a 3D printer "Paranoman Blythe Hollow's mystery"Was released, so I was thinking about talking about that.

true:
At the end of the pamphlet of that work I am writing a sentence. Certainly, I think that it is amazing to go over there, but I guess I have to go there so far? There is also a thought. There are things that appeals to Japan in rich expressions in a single aspect like Noh, Bunraku, Kyogen. I wonder how Leika people who made Paranoman thought about it. However, it is definitely wonderful! I am changing animation one frame at a time, so the facial expression is moving like a human being.

G:
In the ending, it seems that the appearance of molding of the hero's Norman is flowing and I was surprised that "I was making one facial expression per truth."

true:
Were you surprised when you were watching the video?

G:
Yes, because ... ...

true:
I think that it is impossible.

G:
Yes (lol) It is impossible, is not it?

true:
I was also told that "I want you to write a brochure," and I had a hard time writing. It is a wonderful work and I want you to see it because it is one form of stereoscopic animation, but is there something like "Do I have to go there so far ...?". However, since I write variously, please read those who have the brochure by all means.

G:
I think that this time, I saw that Betan (a pet monster appearing at "Comet") came to the studio and I wish I could make a very loving and Japanese-like stereoscopic animation movie But.

true:
I want to do, I want to do it. It is important that students learn what they studied at school as actual things, and it is very frustrating that I can not make that chance. If you have someone who will sponsor 3D animation!


G:
I am very happy if there are people / enterprises who can read hands by this article. Thank you for all the story today.

The 14th episode and the 20th episode of Comet (the first generation) are broadcasted at the special treasure National Treasure No. 2. And although the name came out during the interview, Sanrio's Shinoda Tsuji gave a go-ahead and it was Japan's first puppet animation movie "Nutcracker". As story of struggle at the time of production etc is told in a dialog with director Higuchi, we look forward to the broadcast from 23 o'clock on Thursday, July 11.


Comet's 14th episode & episode 20 (TV drama) / Nutcracker doll (movie) | Japanese Movie Specialty Channel if You See Japanese Movie
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By the way, Mr. Manaka's studio "Magali OfficeOn the official website of "I can see what kind of work I've done so far with pictures.


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