An interview with Harutoshi Fukui & Yuka Minakawa, 'The era of' Space Battleship Yamato ', the selection of 2202 AD', which is a condensed work of 52 episodes of animation in 120 minutes, what is the work of 'Astro Warrior'?
The special omnibus 'Space Battleship Yamato', which is a special compilation of all 26 episodes of the TV anime 'Space Battleship Yamato 2199' and 'Space Battleship Yamato 2202 Love Warriors' in just 120 minutes, is 2021 It will be open to the theater from June 11, 2014 (Friday).
Harutoshi Fukui, who worked on the series composition and screenplay for '2202', thought that a mere 'omnibus' would be meaningless, and made it to show all the society of the remake version of 'Yamato' for the future. Is deeply involved by Yuka Minakawa, who worked on the novelized version.
Before the release, I had the opportunity to talk to Mr. Fukui and Mr. Minagawa, so how did you make this work, how they got to know each other, etc. I have asked various questions, including the parts that are not related.
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GIGAZINE (G):
At first, I would like to ask Mr. Minagawa what he was interested in ... When I was publishing Twitter, there was a tweet saying, 'If you work like this Astro Warrior, you will go bankrupt.'
Yuka Minakawa (hereinafter referred to as Minakawa):
It was checked (laughs). That is the story of a special Blu-ray ('Space Battleship Yamato' era 2202 AD selection 'Blu-ray special limited edition), and it is said to be a short story, and it is planned to be about 30 to 50. The reason is that I wrote 150 sheets, which broke the deadline and caused trouble to people in various fields. The 'Astro Warrior' means that if you do this, you will really die. One game is completely burned.
Harutoshi Fukui (Fukui):
'Astro Kyudan' (laughs)
Minagawa:
I thought it would be about 50, but the number was increasing, and I wish I could do this kind of work. That's why it took more than three times as long as planned.
G:
It's a lot of work that seems to break bones ...
Minagawa:
I feel that muscle strain is likely to occur (laugh)
G:
It doesn't work like an Astro Warrior in every job, right?
Minagawa:
Most of my work so far is so. I've been doing that kind of work, so it's not good. It was the same when I did 'GUNDAM OFFICIALS', so I conclude that it is not good to do it every time.
G:
Even if you think so, you will end up as an astro warrior.
Minagawa:
I don't have a body or a heart, so it's time to find a way to avoid it ... (laughs). From now on, I want to live a life that is a little easier.
G:
I see (laughs) Mr. Fukui ('Space Battleship Yamato 2202 Love Warriors') has been interviewed twice, at the time of the first chapter screening and the seventh chapter screening. At the time of the screening of Chapter 7, there was a saying, 'Even if you think that anything is done beautifully, I can't say for sure', and when the sequel was announced after that, I thought 'I see ...' .. The interview with the relevant remark was in March 2019, but where did this work 'The Age of' Space Battleship Yamato 'Selection in 2202 AD' and the sequel to the main story 'Space Battleship Yamato 2205 New Departure' come from? Did it start?
Fukui:
It started in 2018. This work started in earnest from 2019, and when I was thinking about how to proceed in parallel with the calories of work, this Astro warrior was there and said 'This is just right' (laugh)
Minagawa:
I first heard about it on the day of the preview of Chapter 7. When I was eating after the preview, Mr. Fukui was called by the staff and was talking secretly, saying, 'I'll do a omnibus.' I was asked 'How do you do it?' (Laughs), but I learned that I would do it at that stage.
G:
That means, instead of 'doing a omnibus and then' 2205 '', 'the planning of' 2205 'preceded, and the omnibus moved toward that.'
Fukui:
Well, '2205' started to prepare various things earlier.
G:
When '2199' was over and there was '2202', Junichiro Tamamori of mechanical design received an offer and said, ' I can imagine that there will be a next hit if it hits (laughs). ' You were there, but how was Fukui-san when you heard about '2205'?
Fukui:
This kind of movie production has no dreams or romance, and from the beginning of '2202' there was a story saying 'Let's go in this direction next time'. When you see the numbers, all you have to do is decide whether to go or not.
G:
That was the case.
Fukui:
The rest was whether I would do it or not. However, if you take a look at this 'Space Battleship Yamato era 2202 AD selection', you can see that the characters are already removed from the yoke of 'characters' and are called 'human beings there'. I had a strong feeling that if I put it in the wind, it would probably go bankrupt when I handed it over to someone else. So I thought it would be difficult, but I had to do this anymore. This is also the case with the production committee part, as well as the actors who play the characters, and the faces of the people involved came to my mind.
G:
Mr. Minagawa decided to participate as a script there.
Minagawa:
Since I was in charge of the novelization of '2202', Mr. Fukui said, 'I want you to help me with' 2205 '.' With that flow, I decided to write the script for this work. Originally, when Mr. Fukui decided to do 'Yamato', he said 'I want you to put it in if something happens', so I asked him to do it.
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G:
Hmmmm.
Minagawa:
I heard that it was a regular meeting of '2205' held around May 2019, or 'I want to do it mainly with Mr. Sanada'. At that time, I didn't think I would do it, so I said, 'Mr. Sanada, that's good. That cut looks interesting.' So I was asked to put together a document about Mr. Sanada, like the trajectory of Mr. Sanada's heart from 'Space Battleship Yamato 2199' to '2202', and I handed the summary to Mr. Fukui. It was. In June, I had the opportunity to be called by Mr. Fukui and the staff, and there were talks such as 'Do you know why you were called?', 'I don't know', and 'Do you write a script?'
G:
Oh. Looking at this work, it can be seen that it may be based on the 'trajectory of Sanada's heart' compiled by Mr. Minagawa.
Minagawa:
When I thought, 'It's hard for people to do this as a base,' I was myself (laughs).
G:
From Fukui-san's point of view, does this mean that Minagawa-san has no choice but to do this?
Fukui:
When I was asked to summarize, there were already some necessary words, so I said, 'It's better to use this as it is.' While getting help with '2205', I knew that he was a person who had a proper sense of image, so I thought it would be too meaningless to ask another person for this, so if you can accept it. I thought I'd do it.
G:
This work is a little different from the 'omnibus' that summarizes the work in a way that Mr. Sanada talks with Miyuki Sawashiro's narration.
Fukui:
It's a 'documentary' rather than a omnibus.
G:
At what stage did you come up with that shape?
Fukui:
It's the very first.
G:
Eh, from the beginning?
Fukui:
When I think about 'the meaning of making a omnibus', there is no (meaning) in this visual era. In an era when you had to wait for a rebroadcast after it was broadcast once, it made sense to put it together in one movie, and if you didn't have video software, it made sense to just listen to the sound on vinyl, but now Can be seen all. It may still be meaningful if you reconnect and make it compact, for example, 'you can understand everything in 30 seconds'.
G:
Well, I see.
Fukui:
However, 'Yamato' will continue as a series in the future. 52 episodes of 30-minute animation have already been accumulated in '2199' and '2202', and it is a high hurdle to see this from 1. If so, it may not make sense to make a omnibus of only '2202', but it is meaningful to show all the society of the remake version of 'Yamato', and it is also meaningful for the sequel. There will be some, so let's do it. If you look at one world, even people who are not interested in 'Yamato' itself may be able to see it, so this work was my own solution in that way.
G:
This work is finished in a total of less than 2 hours after adding new cuts to the two works '2199' and '2202'. In an interview with Akiba Research Institute conducted during '2202', Mr. Fukui said, 'It's not very long for me. Rather,' Is this the only one I can enter? ' (Laughs). It's been a battle for a long time, isn't it? '
Fukui:
Yes, that's why it was absolutely impossible to summarize in the form of telling a drama or story. At the stage of '2202', it was made like a omnibus, and there are no margins that would normally be added a little more, because it is a total of 26 episodes in a state of cramming (laugh)
G:
(Lol)
Fukui:
There was no chance of putting it together, so if so, I will fill in the fragments and fragments when looking back on history with narration and Shiro Sanada's emotional words. By alternately bringing in information and emotions, it is shown while making the drama feel. I'm not talking about making it.
Minagawa:
At first, when I was told, 'Let's not do it for the time being', I tried to connect only the places where Mr. Sanada appears in '2199' and '2202'. Then, that alone would take two and a half to three hours, and what would you do? In the first place, the part of the 'Synopsis so far' that Mr. Fukui wrote the script at the time of the theater screening is 10 minutes or 15 minutes each time, so it would be useless to simply calculate how many times that. I even thought that I had no choice but to cut the film vertically. I was told that it would take 90 minutes, so it was difficult for Mr. Fukui to understand what he thought would fit in 90 minutes in the first place.
G:
90 minutes is unreasonable (laughs)
Fukui:
If you understand it, you can do it, because you can cut another line spacing. However, I stopped doing it because no one would be happy. Somehow it feels like I've seen the same thing, but anyway, I can't help but squeeze it.
G:
(Lol)
Fukui:
What you see on the screen and the lines and narration do not necessarily have to be facing the same direction, and they can be separated. The narration talks about what will happen next, or the video goes to the next scene even though the narration hasn't finished talking. There is a chemical reaction that occurs when the image and the dialogue are quarreled, or 'the moment when it connects well'. Even in 'Mobile Suit Gundam UC', I thought about how to fit it in the scale. So I was able to say, 'I'm talking about something very important, but I'm always fighting on the screen.' At first, I thought, 'Because it's a work that is supposed to be watched repeatedly, I can't do it in a movie, because it doesn't come into my ears.' I think I'll be able to do it. 'Mobile Suit Gundam Char's Counterattack' was too fast at the time to understand, but now it feels like it's normal. In fact, he says that he says something he needs somewhere. I think that the concentration when humans face images, or the way they face them, is different from when we were children. I wonder if I've started to stick to it while I'm watching more.
Minagawa:
Also, if the axis is simple, there is no such thing as 'I don't know! I'll leave it behind', but if you follow the narration with Mr. Sanada this time, you can roughly understand the story on the surface. It's not a composition that you can't move forward unless you look at the corners of the picture and imagine it. Of course, what is hidden behind must be picked up from the video as well, but even if you look at the completed video, it seems that there is less feeling of 'putting it away' for the amount of information. think.
Fukui:
Sanada is the most suitable person to see the whole thing objectively.
G:
This time, as it appears in the trailer, while touching on the Apollo program, I feel that the history of the part until human beings fight Gamirasu in the '2199' part has been supplemented to a considerable detail.
Fukui:
After all, because it looks like a documentary, it doesn't look cool until 'what month and what day', so I tried my best to put it on.
Minagawa:
Until then, it was only the year, but I decided to enter all the dates ... I was always making Excel saying 'What day is it here, so what month and what day is it?' ..
G:
In the materials so far, what was 'what happened around what year' is included until the specific date, and I thought that the official answer is shown.
Minagawa:
Regarding this, it was decided that there would be various controversies among the fans, and at the beginning of the meeting, he said, 'This is trying to get into a difficult place.' I'll do it. '
Fukui:
Since it was issued at Apollo 11, it would be 'Why did you suddenly stop issuing dates from here onward?'
Minagawa:
It's a sense of unity. I understand that feeling, but I almost started to vomit under too much pressure ... However, if you cherish the information that has been released so far and do it steadily, the fans will understand it. For example, for Pluto's Operation Me, it is almost certain how many months and days it will be from the description in '2199', so you can calculate the others back from there.
G:
So that's it.
Minagawa:
Mr. Tamamori has a great deal of power in the overall chronology. The '200th Anniversary of the End of World War II', which is also mentioned in the notice, is from Mr. Tamamori, 'The 200-year history of humankind, a war like World War, which is a global killing of human beings. I want to make it a 200-year history that did not exist. In a world where various human beings have solved problems, big problems will occur again, but since the human beings have overcome the hardships for the last 200 years, I want to make it a form that has hope for the future. ' There was, and I really wanted it to be that way. So there was one thing that I could see the direction of the world.
Fukui:
After that, 70% of human beings will die, but maybe 200 years, overcoming various things and reaching the restoration of battleship Yamato was the bubble for that human being. After that, in the 90's, I went to space and the bubble burst, and I was divided into two stars with my compatriots. After Gamirasu came, I wondered if there was '9.11' in the 21st century, there was a Lehman shock, there was a corona, and so on.
G:
Mr. Fukui said when '2202' started, 'It's time to make it right now', but the flow of '2202' really overlaps.
Fukui:
I agree. That point did not shake.
Minagawa:
On the other hand, even though it is a bubble, it is a human being who has achieved the restoration of battleship Yamato. Human beings who have solved various problems that have maintained peace for the past 200 years will face even greater problems. As for whether to go in the wrong direction as it is, I hope that people will think, 'That kind of thing wouldn't happen for that human being.'
G:
Certainly, considering those people, it may be natural to make that choice at the end of '2202'.
Fukui:
And I will pay the price with '2205' ...
(Everyone laughs)
Minagawa:
Add punch lines one by one (laughs)
G:
It is said that Mr. Minagawa's participation was a voice from Mr. Fukui this time, but how long have you been acquainted with each other in the first place? Mr. Fukui wrote a comment in Mr. Minagawa's book 'The Trajectory of Char Aznable' Red Comet '' published in 2006.
Fukui:
Probably that was the first time I met him.
Minagawa:
As for the story, when ' Mobile Suit Gundam Side Story THE BLUE DESTINY' appeared in Kodansha Bunko, the person in charge of the paperback called out 'Let's ask Mr. Fukui for commentary', and then he wrote the commentary for the first time. ..
Fukui:
'GUNDAM OFFICIALS' is before that.
Minagawa:
That's right. But at the time of 'GUNDAM OFFICIALS', you didn't have a relationship.
Fukui:
I knew, 'That awesome guy made' (laughs)
Minagawa:
I met him in person at 'Char's Criticism'. It was just time to start 'UC'.
Fukui:
It was just around the corner.
G:
In the report when the two of them held a talk event at 'Waseda Festival 2013', when Mr. Minagawa said about 'Invincible Steel Man Daiturn 3', 'When I was in the middle 2 in the memory of the previous life', Mr. Fukui said 'That's right. He was an older brother. ' When I met 'Yamato', I heard that Mr. Fukui met the first movie version of 'Farewell Space Battleship Yamato Ai no Senshi' on TV in the year of its release, but Mr. Minagawa is a little higher than Mr. Fukui. So is it the generation of direct hits?
Minagawa:
In the previous life (laughs), the TV series started when I was in the 4th grade of elementary school. The movie version was in the first grade of junior high school, middle 2 was 'Farewell', middle 3 was 'Space Battleship Yamato New Departure', and that year were 'Mobile Suit Gundam' and 'Space Carrier Blue Noah'. There are times when it was a dense three years, three years of 'Yamato'.
G:
It's a lot (laughs)
Fukui:
So, when it came time to do 'Yamato', there was something like 'Yamato Guidance' (laughs).
G:
Guidance?
Minagawa:
'You do a tough job' (laughs)
Fukui:
It was said, 'Keep in mind.'
G:
It would be difficult to undertake it.
Fukui:
Okay.
Minagawa:
I'm half-hearted as a generation, and the generation of Mr. Izubuchi, the general director of '2199,' first saw 'Yamato' in junior high school and high school students. For me, it's been three years with 'Farewell' in the middle. When it comes to Mr. Fukui, it's been three years, centering on the TV series 'Space Battleship Yamato 2' and 'Yamato forever', and for me the first work of 'Yamato' is , It belongs to the older brother and older sister.
G:
Oh, it's not like 'our own' ...
Minagawa:
There is such a place, and at the time of 'Farewell', it was just my generation. The subtle difference between 3 and 5 years is very large, and I think it will come out in various ways. Besides, there is a lag of information depending on whether you live in Tokyo or Kanto or in a rural area.
G:
So that's it. You mentioned 'Yamato Guidance' earlier, but did you have any advice not only before the production but also during the production?
Fukui:
After that, I asked for a novel, but then I brought in 'I thought about such a setting'. '2202' has already been established after adjusting various settings, but if I bring in a new one from there, I will say 'I'll do it anyway' (laughs) So, 'The next time I do it, Put it in here from the beginning. '
Minagawa:
When I handed it over, I was told, 'I can't put this out anymore,' or 'I'll use it later, so don't write it here.'
Fukui:
I also wrote a setting that would lead to '2205', so I said, 'I'll use this next time, so don't write it in the novel.'
G:
'This is good, let's save it' instead of 'I can't do it' (laughs)
Fukui:
That's right. Based on that, I asked them to explore deeper ... Even though I was talking about exploration, there were some that I dug deeper while talking at the bar (laughs).
Minagawa:
Yes, I explored deeply at the bar (laughs)
G:
Talk, I'm excited. Do you usually think 'Is this kind of setting good or this one?'
Minagawa:
That's not the case, but after all it's time to think about it. Then you can hear the voice of the universe.
G:
Voice of the universe (laughs)
Minagawa:
I don't know if it's the voice of the universe, the voice of Zoder, or Teresa (laughs).
G:
So that's it. Mr. Minagawa's workplace, but at the time of 'GUNDAM OFFICIALS', the materials were not piled up, but even under the floor.
Minagawa:
When I'm cross-legged on top of Gundam (laughs). Now, I moved the underfloor part to another room, but this time I couldn't go to the back ... Mr. Fukui came here the other day, but that is within the range that has been properly cleaned up.
Fukui:
Is that so?
Minagawa:
There was a room you couldn't enter.
Fukui:
While it doesn't open (laughs)
Minagawa:
It's a terrifying room with only a Buddhist altar, books and a copy machine. I also collected materials on the history of anime around the time I did '
G:
Do you have any intention of making something like 'YAMATO OFFICIALS'?
Minagawa:
The old series and the remake series are different.
Fukui:
Well, you have to separate the old work and the remake.
Minagawa:
It's quite difficult because I want to put it together stylishly as a book as a world view. Even in the old works, the settings may change for each work. If it's a remake series, I think it would be nice if we could manage the information comprehensively in the remake series, but I don't know who will do it (laughs), but I think it's very convenient to have it. ..
Fukui:
I think this work is also the first step in that sort of thing.
G:
The history of humankind's advance into space has been organized.
Fukui:
For people in their twenties and thirties who are watching the 'Mobile Suit Gundam' series, it is very important to have a chronological table or whether or not the mecha has a model number, and that is a sense of reality. Therefore, I think that the biggest barrier for those who do not know the old 'Yamato' is 'Yamato is (battleship) Yamato'. 'Why is that shape flying in space?' It's probably the same as we say, 'Why does'Tetsujin 28-go'have eyes and nose, and even black eyes?'
Minagawa:
Therefore, it was tragedy that I had to give a reason for 'Gundam has limbs', and when I was told 'Why Yamato has ups and downs in the universe', what I follow is the official side. It didn't come out in a solid form. That's why fans are thinking about filling in the gaps, and that has been reflected in the remake series after '2199'.
Fukui:
so. So, in order to overcome that, the most important thing to break through is to have them witness 'You know, this is what happened from the history next to you.'
Minagawa:
It was fun to think, 'Isn't it strange that the shape of battleship Yamato is?' But 'Isn't this the shape of battleship Yamato?' When Mr. Tamamori explained why Yamato had weapons on the top and the ship was still on the bottom, he was scaly. The turret part is vulnerable to impact, so the thick part of the bottom of the ship is for defense, and it is a halberd and a shield.
G:
I was also taught the theory of the third bridge, and it was just a scale from my eyes.
'Space Battleship Yamato 2202 Love Warriors' Mechanical Design Interview with Junichiro Tamamori, What is the secret of the chimney, the third bridge, and the 'wave barrier'? --GIGAZINE
Fukui:
However, if it is the theory of the shield and the halberd, it will become a shield and you will have to fight while rotating (laugh) So, although that is the part of 'cool laughter', the point is that we have a real feeling of ourselves. There is a world in the future where space development will end up. It may be strange that Yamato is made as it is under Yamato's river and is flying in the sky, but do you understand the urgency of the human beings depicted here? That's how to make it. So, I even think that this work may have a lower hurdle than suddenly seeing the main story.
Minagawa:
This time, there are various hooks that are the highlight, so if there is something that gets caught in it, I hope.
Fukui:
I hope you can catch up and see them all again.
Minagawa:
I think it would be interesting if you could get interested in the history of decades, such as old series and other derivative works.
G:
This work is directed by Atsuki Sato. Mr. Sato has been making trailer videos since '2199', but from the perspective of Mr. Fukui and Mr. Minagawa, what kind of person are you?
Fukui:
Mr. Sato is a person who has a natural talent for 'connecting images' anyway. Normally, when doing this kind of work, you have to say '6 more frames, drop a little' and '12 frames, a little more ahead', but Mr. Sato said, 'Please do it comfortably.' If you tell it, you will get a perfect one. First of all, there is no deviation. 'A person who knows the correct answer.' I'm a person who really 'has it as a body clock', so when I thought about who to ask for editing this work, I could say that my work was almost half done when I came up with Mr. Sato.
Minagawa:
The opening video of ' Space Battleship Yamato 2199 Star Touring Ark ' was wonderful, and I thought 'this person has no problem at all' rather than 'this person's unique thing will not come out'. I was relieved when I was first introduced.
'Space Battleship Yamato 2199 Star Touring Ark' Main Story Opening Video --YouTube
Fukui:
I've known him for a long time, so I felt like, 'By the way, I was also doing a trailer for'Yamato'.' So, from the conversations I hear from time to time, there was a saying, 'I don't remember everything, I like' Yamato 'equivalently.' This time, in the omnibus, the BGM of the scene where Yamato first crushes the bedrock and emerges is the BGM of the TV version of the starting scene.
Minagawa:
It's a 'fleet gathering'.
Fukui:
(Mr. Sato) I really want to do this song. The gekitomo music of '2199' cannot be used due to various reasons, so when I use the same song in '2202', I re-record it, but there is no such song. I don't have it, but I'm so passionate about it that I got a new recording.
Minagawa:
There were some fans who realized that 'that song is a little different' when the newsletter came out.
G:
Was that so, a new record for this?
Fukui:
It was a new record.
Minagawa:
It's hard to despise the fans who noticed that it was a new record only by special news.
G:
At the end, it's a strange question, but at a talk event that the two of us once asked, 'Which character is similar to you in Gundam?', Mr. Minagawa was a full frontal, and Mr. Fukui was 'Broadcast.' It was Camille at the time, but after 30 years it was Ryu Jose. '
Fukui:
You're saying something nifty.
G:
Who do you think you look like in the case of 'Yamato'?
Fukui:
Who do you look like, not like? So that's it. ...... Hmm, maybe it's a key man. The point is that he later got on 'Yamato' and verbalized what everyone couldn't verbalize until then. I was dead at the end (laughs)
Minagawa:
I'm Gehirn. You will be dropped by saying that you don't need it.
(Everyone laughs)
G:
So that's it. Thank you for talking with us.
'Space Battleship Yamato 2199' and 'Space Battleship Yamato 2202 Love Warriors' are summarized in one work in a slightly different form from the omnibus 'The Age of' Space Battleship Yamato 'Selection in 2202 AD' is June 2021 The theater screening will start on the 11th (Friday).
On YouTube, the 'Space Battleship Yamato' era 2021 AD publicity conference, in which the staff members talk about the work, with Ms. Eriko Nakamura as the facilitator, has been released.
The era of 'Space Battleship Yamato' 2021 AD Sendenkaigi <Part 1> --YouTube
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In addition, 'Space Battleship Yamato 2205 New Departure' is scheduled to be screened in 2021, and advance tickets (Mubichike Card) will be on sale on June 11.
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