Is there any meaning to make a work that is incompatible with major problems of society, what is the director Kenji Kamiyama put in "Princess Hirune"?

Kenji Kamiyama's first original theater animation "Ghost in the Shell STAND ALONE COMPLEX" and "Eden of the East"Princess Hirune"Will be released on Saturday, March 18, 2017 (Saturday).

We conducted an interview with Kamiyama at GIGAZINEWhy did you choose 2020 as the stage, how was making a work in digitizationAlthough I have heard stories such as the story, again I've asked stories about the arts and drama.

GIGAZINE (hereinafter, G):
"Princess Hirune" is attacking by stepping down to the limit line to the point where it is going to be an absurd SF fantasy when making a mistake. On the other hand, feeling that it is on the real extension and feet on the ground gives "good I felt that there is something like a criterion on how to think about this barely line. Regarding the composition, according to the interview of the official website "It took quite a while to put the original idea in the form of a dreamIt is said that.

Director Kenji Kamiyama (Kamiyama):
There were twists and turns. At first, I put out a proposal with the feeling of "doing SF fantasy", but I was not able to put in a concrete script development for about a year from there. Although there were also times that I was busy, I could hardly proceed with planning "Hirune Hime" in concrete terms, I think that there was also my own mood.

G:
What is your mood?

Kamiyama:
"We made while striking the earthquake"009 RE: CYBORG"When I had the opportunity to screen with Ishinomaki Ishinomori, my hometown of Professor Shotaro Ishinomori at the very beginning, what was the work I had made so far Somewhere in the state and fit of Japan I thought there was not a part to do. I"Ghost in the Shell STAND ALONE COMPLEXDo you think that it is useless if you do what it is called dramatics that you found after yourself, or what is called dramaturism as it is. Also, against the stories such as the "heroin that saves the world" that I wrote so far, I can not help feeling that "the world can not be saved in reality", motivation of creation in myself I think that a gap occurred.


G:
Hmph.

Kamiyama:
The creator does not have so many themes at the same time, but at most one or two. When I was in my teens I came across J. D · Sarlinger's "Get by the Rye wheat field" and came across "Star Wars" "Mobile Suit Gundam" to make animation. At one point, I thought "Would not it be possible to make an animation with only a monologue with a tremendously personal feel like a" more "rye field"? "It was a period when I was seeking that in my 20's. However, at that time, there was absolutely no element that made such an animation, and it seems to be what "I think, what is this guy". I do not want to make something with SF element, no fantasy element, fantasy element "elements required for animation", in my 20s said that kind of thing, I got a plan and I lost it .

G:
How.

Kamiyama:
I happened to sneak into the "Ghost in the Shell SAC" and in a way it made it possible to find out one of the "drama laws that form myself" It was. Dramaturgy is not quite as reliable as some people can not find their own, but as it is symbolized by the word "STAND ALONE COMPLEX" the theme is "whole and individual" As a starting point for making a work, it seems that my style was to draw individuals while committing to the biggest problem happening in society.


G:
I have been watching such works so far, so when I first saw PV, I was surprised that "What is this content?"


Kamiyama:
Until now I have drawn from the settings and arrived at the individual, but this time I thought about drawing an individual from the approach with the opposite. Indeed, I thought that only individuals were okay. I thought that I would draw my own rye field like "catch in rye wheat field". Even so, even in this age, the plan is not accomplished by itself (laugh) In the meantime, in this context, I want the fantasy elements as well as the consciousness of "I want to draw the issue of the generation" that continues from "East Eden" For one answer to that,Arthur C. ClarkDefinedClark's three lawsIt was an idea that "Try to substitute magic with the technology that always draws" which hinted at the word "highly developed science and technology is indistinguishable from magic". It was acceptable at the planning stage, but the idea that I think is the best is sometimes the most obstructive in making a work.

G:
The most obstructive !?

Kamiyama:
I remember that the saying was such that Pixar had such a saying that "I think that the best thing is the weakest point, so you have the courage to throw it away", but it just hit it . When making a story with the voices of "surprisingly good" as the nucleus, the more I rejoice if I am rejoicing, the more I become "the same as before" in "Personal stories and whole stories" At the same time there was something like a fear or a sense of crisis that this might make you get in the way to run the story.


G:
Did the sense of crisis gradually increase, or did it appear suddenly before my eyes?

Kamiyama:
It's wrong from the beginning. As soon as I started writing the script I noticed that, but there was also a charm that I could not throw away. I think that it is this interlacing that "It is a dangerous smell, but I should definitely fuse this" as I said ... ....

G:
Indeed, it seems that it looked like it felt "attacked", was not it? In the interview, it was "I was asking myself" What can I do with animation "?" There are also answers to the question about what can be done with animation after finishing making it to a certain extent?

Kamiyama:
As SNS etc. popularized, I believe that it is now time for individuals to have the most power. In such times, "individual monologue" is a kind of entertainment, unexpected "feelings" that had never been looked at before, will become monologues that empathize with everyone That's pretty. I picked up such a place, aimed to find out. However, as I mentioned earlier, it just does not become a work, so I think that finding the technique to make it a work is also what we should do.

G:
What part does not work as it is not a work?

Kamiyama:
There are many cases, but there are subjects that it seems to shine as a single subject matter, but it does not shine when arranged side by side. In terms of dishes, even if you eat delicious ingredients one at a time, it seems to be incompatible with mixing. But there are cases where what is said to be "it is impossible" will be delicious. "Curry and natto" are not bad if you try.

G:
Indeed, it is such part of "pro existence".

Kamiyama:
I agree. I think that I should do it.

G:
The other day cinema today "Why are everyday systems popular? "Ghost in the Shell S.A.C." Changing the Generation of Anime Fans Faced by Kamiyama Director"The interview with the title titled" Director says "Even so, but now I feel that I do not want to see a serious story, a very heavy work," but that sense was "Princess Hirune What effect did you make when you made it? I saw this story and I had the impression that it became a steadily heavier story in the climax, and thought that from the director it seems that this is not so heavy.

Kamiyama:
I do not think that it is not a heavy, but after all, I have no choice but to write what I want to write. As an entrance, I thought that I do not want to see heavy things, including myself. However, even though I think that I will do something different, the makers do not have so many different themes. Even though hands and dramaturisms can be changed, as a basis for making movies, among me is "There is meaning to make work that does not break into the biggest problem happening in society right now There is something called "something".


G:
Oh ...... Even though I think of the director's work so far, I certainly understand it.

Kamiyama:
Although I started from an individual this time, as I write, there is me who wants to ask for the part that cuts out with the problem now ... ... Of course, I have to say "I do not want to see heavy things" However, we can not stop painting that reality will exist even if we close our eyes. ...... Those who have closed their eyes are surely happy, but (laugh)

G:
By asking in words again like this, "It is going to develop like that," I am quite convinced.

Kamiyama:
As a result, although I do smile, I wonder what happened to my father and mother, what is happening in society, what is going on in Tokyo, perhaps if I did not know Cocone happy Maybe I can live.


G:
Although my work has also had "Kamiyama Kenji Directorishment, Kamiyama Works", is that "Posa" in the direction of SF or a story, various complex Although I've been thinking about what it's like or whatever it is, when I saw "Hirube Hime", the vector is quite different from my previous works, but the most intensely "Kamiyama work っ っ ぽIt was the reason for this area that I felt.

Kamiyama:
That may be the case.

G:
When creating a work, I think resources are finite, I think that it is necessary to decide priority of work such as where we spend a lot of time and trouble and where we lightly finish, but how about Kamiyama's case Is it decided to?

Kamiyama:
Maybe it is because he was old, "the work is the first" has not changed, but the feeling that it appears on the surface layer is changing with taking old age.

G:
What is the surface layer?

Kamiyama:
As much as possible, we are thinking more than ever before that we have to create a "workplace with the future". Is one of them digitizing the environment? Although it is used normally now, Mobukara is to be covered with CG, or like automobiles, "whether painting is tough but it is something that does not change shape" is to be replaced with CG, the accuracy is I'm going to do such things quite early, such as doing the required layout and CG. Even as we continue hand-drawn animation, we have started from the point that it is not the case that we use the animator's resources for that kind of thing, but since "the future of animators" is a resource of drawing, they can draw It will be impossible to create an animation in the first place if there are no people or people who want to draw a new one. It is my opinion that I should not think about it at the same time.

G:
Since I got a story of CG, I would like to ask you that the posting titled "Seto Ohashi Bridge CG" was established separately for the ending credits. That only this alone was ... ...

Kamiyama:
It was because it was such a difficult task because the worker was not found. Although it is said that the Seto Ohashi bridge did not reproduce the whole thing, it is a part, but it is almost reproduced about a part of it. Although it might be exaggerated to say "the size of the screw", the structure etc. are reproduced considerably, it is a kind of special skill. It tends to be thought that "CG can do anything", but in a sense, it does not change from troublesome hand-drawn work, as it is necessary to reduce the amount of information when using it.


G:
I see.

Kamiyama:
It seems to work like "Does the computer do CG?", But since it is completely different from drawing with hands, it is a special skill that is very persistent.

G:
It is the last question. I think that there are times when exhausting exhausting when making a work. In such a case, how do I take a rest and relieve stress, switch switching, refreshing?

Kamiyama:
I do not know what will happen in the future, but I still have physical fitness right now, so I will not take any vacation while making a work. Although I think that I do not have anything that is top notch, such as "drawing a picture", "writing a screenplay", "color sensation" "music" and so on in film making, but what I put in the world rank I think that it is "tenacious" if there is. Perhaps there is probably Ichiro level (laugh)


G:
It keeps sticking without leaving ... It is amazing ... ....

Kamiyama:
So, there is no "stress relaxation / divergence".

G:
Finally I asked a ridiculous question ... (lol) Thank you for answering various questions and broken questions this time.

The movie 'Hirune Hime' is finally released on Saturday 18 March. While directing Kamiyama Kenji's new approach, it is also a comprehensive piece of work that incorporates the "richness" cultivated through past animation making.


· Staff & Cast
Original · Director · Screenplay: Kenji Kamiyama
Cast: Masaki Takahata, Masanosuke Mitsushima, Shinta Furuta, Rie Kugimiya, Wataru Takagi, Tomoya Maeno, Risa Shimizu, Hideki Takahashi, Yosuke Eguchi
Music: Yoko Shimomura "Kingdom Hearts"
Character draft: Satoko Morikawa "The cat's return"
Drawing Director: Atsuko Sasaki "Eden of the East", Kazuya Kurosa "Ghost In The Shell STAND ALONE COMPLEX"
Directing: Horime Yoshinori, Kono Toshiyuki
Hearts design: Koyamagishito "Bay Max"
Production: Signal · Md.
Distribution: Warner Bros. Movie
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