A long interview with Yoshinobu Akita and Shou Tajima, I listened to the highlights of the surprising collaboration 'Hunter Dark' and the unexpected faces of the two.
Interview with both of them before the release to commemorate the
We interviewed Mr. Akita in October 2009, but this time it was an interview with two people, so at the suggestion from Mr. Tajima who rarely appears in the media, while drinking alcohol at a pub I've been listening to you for two and a half hours.
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◆ Table of contents
・ Background of the formation of the Akita-Tajima combination
・ Monthly serialization can only be used for 5 days to actually write
・ What I think when I see Mr. Tajima's painting
・ If you have a lot of time
・ Tanks, pistols, and other cool things
・ 'Zombie' talk from works that I was interested in recently
・ 'The manuscript cannot be raised'
・ Shou Tajima's design release 'Hunter Dark' cover illustration
・ 'How much should I sell my raw manuscript?'
・ The highlight of 'Hunter Dark' is 'Absurd but serious view of the world'
・ Everyone likes figures
・ Akita family cat, Tajima family cat and Axolotl
・ Until Akiu Tajima aims to become a cartoonist
・ For future writers
This interview was conducted at the private izakaya 'Kakoi' in Ebisu.
Yoshinobu Akita
Professor Shou Tajima
◆ Background of the formation of the Akita-Tajima combination
First of all, toast
GIGAZINE (G):
I've just added alcohol, so I'd like to ask you from a simple point, but have you already met Mr. Tajima and Mr. Akita?
Akiu Tajima (hereinafter Tajima):
Yeah, before. How long ago?
Yoshinobu Akita (hereinafter referred to as Akita):
Is it about 3-4 years ago?
Mr. Shibata, Editor-in-Chief of TO Books (hereinafter Shibata):
I was still drinking at that time (laughs)
G:
At that time, wasn't it still a concrete story of adding illustrations to Mr. Akita's novel?
Tajima:
It was completely different. It was moving with the story of making it into a manga, and this is not the reason why it disappeared (laugh)
G:
Mr. Tajima's work has a strong image of manga such as 'Multiple Personality Detective Psycho', but are there many other illustration jobs such as 'Hunter Dark'?
Tajima:
It's on occasion. It's sloppy.
G:
'
Tajima:
That's just the cover. Certainly, it's not so much to include the illustrations inside. I don't really shake the job of 'light novel'. I don't know anything (laughs)
G:
Is there any difficulty in inserting illustrations that is different from manga?
Tajima:
Is there something? No, it's not like manga. At all. It's not a one-page with frame division. In 'Hunter Dark', I wanted to write a machine person, so I wanted to draw a machine person on the chapter door and line up the characters. It's not an illustration that follows the story.
G:
It's like character design.
Tajima:
Yup.
Akita:
The starting point of this project is very special, and there was a person named Keisuke Kishi who was originally modeling, and there was a story about visualizing the robot model he designed. .. So, I have a character, but I haven't talked about it, so I decided to make an original for it, so I came to talk about it, and it was many years ago that I started making it.
Tajima:
Oh, that's right!
Akita:
That's right, actually. It was completed when it was completed, but the planning of the video was due to various changes in the company, and the manuscript floated in the air. So I was talking about what happened, so I thought I should make a book. At that time, the title and the name of the character were changed, and it was inherited by 'Hunter Dark'.
Tajima:
At that time, the story written by Mr. Akita was lying down.
G:
The format of the interview while drinking was a suggestion from Mr. Tajima, but do you usually drink alcohol?
Tajima:
No, it's just like people (laughs)
G:
Do you have a favorite shop?
Tajima:
I like standing soba noodles. I ate it today as well.
TO Books Editor Shitara (hereinafter Shitara):
Where are you today?
Tajima:
Today is a standing soba restaurant near my house (laughs)
Shitara:
You said you quit smoking. Did your dietary preferences change?
Tajima:
No, it doesn't change. So it's usually delicious after you quit smoking, everything. ...... No, has it changed? Maybe it has changed ... But I like what I like more, and I don't dislike it.
Shitara:
Do you have a recommended restaurant for standing eating soba?
Tajima:
Standing soba is probably '
Shitara:
What do you eat at a soba shop?
Tajima:
eh? It's usually tempura soba. I also like ramen, curry rice, and children's food. Like hamburger steak.
G:
Do you go out to eat near your workplace?
Tajima:
No, not recently. I went to the place where I used to live.
G:
Do you go out for a drink at the end of work?
Tajima:
When I buy beer and drink a little after work, I drink it every day. I'm told that I can make a rest day.
Shitara:
It seems that it doesn't make sense if you don't take a rest day twice a week in a row.
Tajima:
Eh !? Isn't it good once?
Shitara:
Yes, it was written in some book. Does Mr. Akita drink alcohol every day?
Akita:
No, I don't drink alone.
Shitara:
Do you drink and get excited and work?
Tajima:
No, it's sometimes there, but I wonder if I'll stop drinking it. When I ask my friends, there are people who draw while drinking, but that's dangerous. It's just before alcoholism.
Akita:
It's a shame that you can show your performance by drinking (laughs)
◆ Monthly serialization can only be used for 5 days to actually write
G:
I don't think both of you are novelists and manga artists, so it's not a job of 'from 9 am to 6 pm'. What is your daily schedule like?
Akita:
When I work in a room, I don't get much done, so I often do it in a coffee shop. The time is already messed up, and I'm dissatisfied that there is no coffee shop that is open 24 hours a day, but it will be adjusted to the time of the coffee shop. I don't like it because it's crowded on Saturdays and Sundays.
G:
Do you decide what time to do it today?
Akita:
Even if I try to do it, I often do not proceed at all, so rather than doing it from now on, I managed to write 10 sheets, but by the way, I wonder how many hours it took. There are times when I'm not going to do anything even if I go to the computer for about 12 hours.
G:
Do you feel like adjusting to the deadline?
Akita:
It's not as beautiful as adjustment, and I have to do it when the deadline is approaching (laughs)
G:
How about Mr. Tajima?
Tajima:
Is it a day's work? It's like I get up in the morning, drink green tea, and work. It's not regular in the morning, so I don't know what time to wake up, so I'm going to slip. If you do it late the day before, you will get up late the next day. However, I wonder if it's time to get along. I was told and last time.
Shitara:
Did you say that (laughs)
Tajima:
Were told. When I talked to the old staff on the phone, he said, 'Dames, I have to do it properly.' I said, 'Wow!' But you should do it (laughs)
G:
I don't think it's easy to say 'let's make it so far', but how long does it take to finish one work?
Akita:
Well, it's early, but things that don't end don't end even if it takes years. I don't even know why (it takes time). It's an exaggeration to say, but it doesn't make any sense if the last line of the work isn't finished. It doesn't make any sense to say that it's 90% done. Also, I'm not careful because I change my mind and rewrite it by the time I write the last line (laugh), but this time 'Hunter Dark' was rather concentrated and I felt like I wrote it in about 2 to 3 months I will.
Shibata:
No, it was early. It's really fast when it's early.
Tajima:
Isn't Akita serializing?
Akita:
I used to do it.
Shibata:
You did it last year (laughs)
Akita:
No, did you serialize it in a bimonthly magazine?
Tajima:
When did you do one monthly publication?
Akita:
There was a time when I was doing one monthly publication a long time ago, but I think it was made because I was young.
G:
Is it quite hard to say one monthly publication?
Akita:
I can only use it for 5 days to actually write. I remember that clearly, but if it takes more than 5 days, I can't do other work.
Shibata:
Well, in the meantime, I have to write a feature film and check the galley. So, it's about 40 to 50 sheets. In 5 days.
Tajima:
There are people who are serializing in newspapers. Is that all together (manuscript) handed over?
Shibata:
That was written down before the start.
Tajima:
Well, then you wrote a lot and the editor cut it?
Shibata:
The calculation is done on a case-by-case basis by the writer and the editor, but since it is stored up before the start, it is posted every day even if there is something.
Tajima:
Once, the writer specifies here. It's accumulated many times.
Shibata:
What about the weekly serialization?
Tajima:
I've never done a weekly publication.
Shibata:
What about your friends?
Tajima:
No, I did it. It didn't look like I was writing a lot.
Akita:
To hear it, I've written it down, but it seems like it's gone in no time. It's scary to imagine the weekly serialization of manga. Calculating how many days it takes for a name and how many days it takes for actual work. There are only 7 days a week, so you shouldn't have much time to think about things. But you're doing that.
G:
How about Mr. Tajima? Is it a monthly publication if it is a regular serialization?
Tajima:
No, it will take time. It seems like I'm getting sick every year ... Don't take two weeks to spare. I wonder if it will cost more. It takes two weeks just to draw.
G:
Mr. Tajima had a fairly long interval between the end of ' Madara ' and the start of 'Multiple Personality Detective Psycho'. What were you doing during that time? I heard that you were practicing painting in rumor.
Tajima:
Training! ?? Is it like a dragon ball? (Laughs) That's not the case ... I just played normally. But I think it was a fulfilling day. I was lazy, but I also had money. At that time. It was fun to mess around properly.
G:
I felt that the atmosphere of the painting changed from MADARA to Psycho, but is there anything you were conscious of?
Tajima:
I feel like I tried not to use the tone as much as possible.
G:
Do you have a consciousness to change the atmosphere for each work?
Tajima:
No, I think it's the mood at that time. I want to draw a picture like this.
G:
Did you try to do something like this in this 'Hunter Dark'?
Tajima:
The guy with Mr. Akita is the same as the previous one, but I think I'm still alive before ...
Akita:
I'm thinking of writing (laughs). No, it's a story I really want to write ...
Tajima:
I think Akita-san has a nice manga-like feel. I wonder if there is something I'm looking for. It's easy to make a manga. That's why I want to make this 'Hunter Dark' into a manga.
G:
Mr. Akita, how about listening to the current story as the original author?
Akita:
No, I don't talk about it, but this time around, the concept that I had from the beginning is like a cartoon.
G:
Speaking of cartoon-like feeling ...
Akita:
Like '
I don't do it as a parody or meta, but everyone in the work is serious. That's why there is no such thing as a back setting in what I wrote in this work, it's all I wrote. I personally like cartoons, and comics and manga are the best of all. In that sense, (Mr. Tajima's impression) is a very happy story.
Tajima:
I wonder if such a place is coming.
Akita:
I'm grateful.
G:
Does Mr. Tajima read American comics?
Tajima:
I see American comics, but I can't read it as a manga.
Akita:
Cartoons also have the so-called American style, or the harmful effects of the Hollywood style, and it is difficult for the artist to be an individual creative work. From the Japanese point of view, it looks systematic and cold. By all means, they all have similar stories. However, the number of people who come to Japan is quite limited while a huge number are being made.
Tajima:
Oh, that's right.
Akita:
So, only the popular ones or the ones that are quite sharp come. I think that the creativity and individuality that still remain in the situation where individuals are killed by the organization will stand up. It seems that I'm enjoying it forcibly (laughs).
Tajima:
It's almost a division of labor.
Akita:
I agree. Among them, charisma, or something like that, is easy to stand out.
◆ What I think when I see Mr. Tajima's painting
G:
From the perspective of Mr. Akita, is there anything that you think is amazing about Mr. Tajima's paintings?
Akita:
There is a complex inside me, and he says, 'I'm a very unsophisticated person.' ... So, the first thing you notice in Mr. Tajima's paintings is the sensitive part. It's a cliché, but the sharpness and sophistication are the first things you'll notice, so maybe you're sighing and watching (laughs).
As for painting, it may be for everyone. I like people who can draw pictures. It's so clear that I can't reach it. I'm jealous of you when you look at it.
Tajima:
Do you think you should draw manga?
Akita:
There is. There are many other things. I wish I could draw a picture, or I wish I could make music. You know that you can never do it.
Tajima:
Ah, I understand.
Akita:
Even texts don't seem to be able to draw poems. Also, I don't think I can write a script. That's why I have a longing for painting, but among them, Tajima-san's painting is the easiest to understand that I can't do it (laughs).
So, when asked 'How about Mr. Tajima's painting?', I can't say anything. I can't say what to say. There is a little relationship like that.
G:
Mr. Tajima said, 'I understand.'
Tajima:
Yeah, that's why. Thinking that it would be popular if we could make a band (laughs)
Akita:
You can see something different from yourself (laughs) I wish I could fly an airplane.
Tajima:
Yeah, a water bike is fine too. It feels good.
Akita:
I'm not good at high places, so bungee jumping.
Tajima:
Ah, but don't you want to try it? once.
Akita:
I can imagine myself wanting to do it, but I can clearly imagine that I would never be able to do it if I went (laughs).
Tajima:
That's true. I'd like to try skydiving for a while, but it's impossible.
Akita:
From 2000 meters above the sky, you can see yourself returning by saying 'I'll stop' (laughs).
◆ If you have a lot of time
G:
I think both of you are very busy with work now, but if you have a lot of free time, is there anything you would like to do?
Akita:
What if I had time? I feel like I'm not doing anything as much as I have (laughs) No, but I really often dream about it, but I want to read only books without doing anything for about 10 years. Well, I don't like books so much (laughs)
G:
How about Mr. Tajima?
Tajima:
I'm sure I wouldn't do anything if I had time. I have this kind of personality, so even if I don't have time, it's like this now ... But if I have a lot of time, I'd like to play with a little more energy.
G:
What kind of play is it?
Tajima:
It's normal, but I go to Disneyland, go camping, and so on. I want to do that kind of thing very hard. I wish I had some money.
Akita:
Recently, my friend was traveling to Miami, and I posted pictures of Disney World on Twitter almost every day, so I was a little crazy and watched 'Go! Go!' I would like to stay overnight at Disneyland. If I go, maybe I won't do anything on the second day (laughs)
Tajima:
After all I want to play with enthusiasm. Decide to play. If you don't, you won't do anything again. I want to decide to play and play.
◆ Tanks, pistols, and other cool things
Akita:
I really want to make a full-fledged plastic model once, not with one effort.
Tajima:
Isn't it a
Akita:
so. The one who really thinks 'Oh, I made it!' It's like, 'It took me two months, but I made it!' I don't call it Yada because the spray is awkward.
Tajima:
What is a thing?
Akita:
There are about two plastic models of tanks that I haven't made right now.
Tajima:
Oh, that's right. Do you like tanks?
Akita:
I'm not very familiar with it, but the tank that appeared in the military appeal video I borrowed from a video shop a long time ago was really cool. It's a great chunk of mecha. It's already dogfighting at about 60km / h.
Tajima:
I understand I understand. You'll want to draw a tank cartoon or something. I think that if I draw it once, it will be 'already good!'. Like this, curly curly curly! Run, burn! Or 'make a picture'.
Akita:
It feels like the armor bounces the moment you shoot.
Tajima:
Or something. I wish I could study tanks a little more and draw such things.
Akita:
The tank factory also looks cool, doesn't it? Of course, ordinary people will not be able to enter. It's a rugged, murderous weapon, but at the same time it's a delicate high-tech gathering. So, the thing that comes the most is that you can't control it alone. You can't fly without four people. Since each role is clearly decided and I can't follow the roles of others, I have no choice but to trust and do my job during the battle.
Tajima:
It's amazing, it's a story. The tank is cool.
Akita:
Such a tank romance.
Shitara:
Well, that's right. It's like a Guntank !
Akita:
The Guntank is finally a one-seater (laughs)
Shitara:
What kind of division is it?
Akita:
The manipulator and the cannon shooter ...
Tajima:
And the person who gives orders. Look above.
Shitara:
Is the person who issues the command different?
Akita:
Because the field of view is different. And the rest is the person who loads the bullets. I have to have four people.
Shitara:
Is there such a movie?
Akita:
There are many.
Tajima:
Some time ago, I saw a really cool movie. I wonder what ...
G:
Do you come up with the idea of your work from such a place?
Tajima:
Yeah, I think I'm thinking, 'I'm drawing.' When a cool tank cut appears in a magazine, I just buy it. 'The moment of the bombardment of this tank is really cool!', So I buy it for that one. It's not limited to anything, it's the idol's cuteness, and the blowback method when shooting with a pistol 'Gan!' Is really cool.
G:
Mr. Tajima's picture of the pistol blowing back is really cool.
Tajima:
There is still more. It's still useless.
G:
After all, that kind of thing is the accumulation of research by looking at magazines.
Tajima:
I want to draw more, but ... I can't.
Akita:
There was a story about training a while ago, but I think it's more everyday to absorb something. Rather than holding up like this and going to some dojo. That's why you can't be alert. Even if I take it easy, I have to make it come in somehow.
◆ 'Zombie' talk from works that I was interested in recently
G:
Do you have any works that you are interested in recently?
Tajima:
There is a great hit recently, '
Shibata:
Did you see the first zombie TV series in America?
Tajima:
Ah! (Frank) Darabont 's! I want to see it.
Shibata:
It seems to be amazing in America. It's the first time I've done that on TV.
Tajima:
What kind of title is it?
Shibata:
Ah, I wonder ... I forgot. Also, do you know the zombie movie made for 6000 yen?
Tajima:
Is it ' Colin '? I want to see that too!
Shibata:
I want to see that! A lot of students and professionals gathered in London to make a movie of 90 minutes or more, and it will be released in Japan. It's 6000 yen.
Akita:
I want to make such an amount.
Tajima:
It's 6000 yen.
Shibata:
Maybe it's a tape fee. Because it is 1 million in ' Paranormal Activity '. But it's pretty amazing, it's done.
Akita:
With such amateur production, 'I'm going to make it so far' is starting to appear. A live-action version of 'The Legend of Zelda'.
Legend of Zelda (April Fools' Day) Movie Trailer Premiere --YouTube
Shibata:
That's right. Do you know 'Pokemon'? He likes Pokemon so much that he made a live-action notice with his friends. It's not odd (laughs)
Pokémon Apokélypse: Live Action Trailer HD-YouTube
Tajima:
What about Pikachu?
Shibata:
No, it feels bad. CG and everything can be done on a computer, so it seems that I made it only with passion.
Tajima:
I want to see it.
Shibata:
Mr. Akita, have you had anything recently?
Akita:
It's nothing late at all, but up to 12 episodes of ' Daitetsujin 17 ' was interesting.
G:
Is it up to 12 episodes (laughs)
Akita:
That's why I could see it somehow, but after all the special effects program has 13 episodes and it has a sword. That's where it gets messy. That's why '
Tajima:
Is it a one-seven generation?
Akita:
I didn't see it at all at that time, but I saw it recently. But I still remember losing the One Seven toys to the sandbox. I also like the recent cartoons, not recently, but the Disney Channel ' Phineas and Ferb ' was interesting. I think Disney Channel is pretty interesting to say. I'm wondering if a DVD will come out, but it's hard to come out. Also, Cartoon Network's ' Untalkative Bunny ' is cute.
Shibata:
I remembered! It's 'The Walking Dead ', the Darabont zombie that we do in the TV series.
Akita:
Is The Walking Dead? That is aired on a pay channel. I said it wasn't done in Japan, so I thought it was different.
Shibata:
Oh, is that so?
Tajima:
It seems that it's done on a paid channel, but I heard that some of it has been cut. When can I watch 'The Walking Dead' on DVD?
Shibata:
Even if you are asked such a question (laughs), I would like to see it.
G:
Does Tajima like zombie movies?
Tajima:
I love zombie movies. I've loved zombies since I was a teenager. Right now, there are quite a few zombie manga and bang bangs out there, but I drew a zombie manga about Romero about 20 years ago. It's 20 years early.
Akita:
My friend also loves zombie movies, and he decorated the soil he used to shoot. I get angry when I get close to that corner. 'Shah'.
G:
Speaking of zombie movies, recent zombies run ...
Tajima:
The run was a shock.
G:
Is it OK to run?
Tajima:
It's OK at all. I have to do that much.
G:
Which work did you see the zombies running for the first time?
Tajima:
' 28 days later ... '? After that, ' Dawn of the Dead '.
Akita:
I was ' Left 4 Dead '. Everyone's got better at the game, so I can't kill them without running.
(President Takeichi Honda arrives at Tea O Entertainment)
Akita:
Then Mr. Honda, please give us a word like the president.
Takeichi Honda President (Honda):
'28 days later ...' means I should have done ' 28 weeks later ... ' (laughs)
Tajima:
But '28 weeks later ...' was also pretty cool. Air strikes or killing with a helicopter propeller.
Honda:
That work is between ' Trainspotting ' and ' Slumdog Millionaire, ' Danny Boyle .
Tajima:
'28 weeks later ...' isn't Danny Boyle. '28 months later ...' He seems to want to do it. It was written on something.
Shibata:
Did you know that there was a novel in the US last year?
Tajima:
It's not that, ' WORLD WAR Z '. But Brad Pitt will play the leading role in the movie, right? I bought it. I haven't read it. It's a documentary-touch novel, isn't it?
Shibata:
Oh yeah, I'm doing a movie. It's really cool so please read it (laughs)
Akita:
Zombie culture is deep. Zombie games will definitely be released in October. Halloween is a zombie.
Tajima:
Is it 'Resident Evil'?
Akita:
Or rather, I turned a game that had nothing to do with it into a zombie game.
Tajima:
Oh, that's right, ' Red Dead Redemption '. Was that interesting?
Akita:
It was fun.
Tajima:
The other day, when I went to my friend
Akita:
I like music. It was the most interesting last year.
Tajima:
That's why zombies will come out next time.
Akita:
No, it's already out. I downloaded the overseas version and haven't done it yet.
G:
Both of you are playing games.
Akita:
I'll do it ... (laughs)
Tajima:
I want to do it, but I can't.
G:
What kind of title are you doing these days?
Tajima:
It's embarrassing (laughs) I recently did '
Akita:
But 'Resident Evil 5' no longer appears as a zombie.
Tajima:
Oh, it's a monster.
Akita:
It feels controversial, 'It's not a zombie.' It hasn't come out from around '
Tajima:
Yup. But 4 was interesting.
G:
What kind of title is Akita-san's recent game?
Akita:
Recently you did something like ' Assassin's Creed '.
Shibata:
Akita-san, please say ' Dragon Age: Origins ' (laughs)
Akita:
'Dragon Age' just froze twice in the last battle yesterday (laughs)
Tajima:
Why is it 'Dragon Age'?
Shibata:
I
Tajima:
Eh, is that a dragon?
Shibata:
It will come out. With 3DCG animation.
Akita:
It's a subtly surreal game in which the characters are always in the blood when they fight, and the characters are talking while turning bright red. The game itself is rather a classical and old game. It came out many years ago, but this year the Japanese version was localized. Overseas, ' Dragon Age II ' will be released in March of this year. (Editor's note: It was released in February 2012 after this)
◆ 'The manuscript cannot be raised'
G:
Could you tell us your impressions of the work of the two from the editor?
Tajima:
But I haven't finished yet.
Shitara:
May I come to pick up the manuscript this Saturday?
Tajima:
I want to come?
Shitara:
I want to go.
Tajima:
Then, if you let me drink when you hand over the manuscript.
Shitara:
It's good at all. Then on Saturday.
Tajima:
Oh, I'll hand over the manuscript and drink it on Saturday. Okay (laughs)
Honda:
It's nice to drink, but don't forget the manuscript.
G:
I see, it looks like this (laughs) How about seeing it from Mr. Shibata?
Shibata:
After all, the two of you will meet. It's exciting to meet the artist and the person who draws the illustrations. You have each world view, and you have something to do for each. There is a possibility that it doesn't match your personality. But the two of us talked normally from the time we first met, and as Mr. Tajima said earlier, there was a feeling that they were somehow familiar.
So, there were various backgrounds in the planning this time as well, but when I asked Mr. Akita, 'Then, how about Mr. Tajima?'
Tajima:
Really? (Lol)
Shibata:
It's true (laughs) I think you can understand that Mr. Tajima often does it with the original person, but the biggest difference between the novel and the manga is that the manga draws the name written by the original person. It's normal to change it, but in the case of illustrations and novels, the novel has already been created. Even if I don't like it, I can't fix it (laughs). That's why it doesn't work unless the person who draws the illustration knocks. I'm grateful for that this time.
So it's hard to do this kind of place. Even if I talk, there is no conversation at all. I wonder if there was something that matched these two people again.
Honda:
I wish I could make a manuscript.
Tajima:
Somehow, the phone is getting scarier (laughs)
Akita:
I'm really disappointed at this time, but if I'm late for various reasons, the title of the email transmission history is all 'I'm sorry' (laughs) That's all.
Tajima:
It's true ...
Akita:
Recently, my slogan is 'The manuscript cannot be raised'. I always say this to people in the same industry. 'I can't get the manuscript up, so let's go play' (laughs)
◆ Shou Tajima's design release 'Hunter Dark' cover illustration
G:
I'd like to go into the details a little more, but the first story I heard was that there was already another robot-based novel a few years ago, which was inherited by the current 'Hunter Dark'. It is said that Mr. Tajima entered and became the current form.
Shibata:
As I said earlier, there is one big point in me, that the two people's personalities and the world view of the work do not match. A long time ago, I had a meal with Mr. Tajima and Mr. Akita on another project, and at that time, they both felt good.
So when I was wondering what to do this time, the world view of 'Hunter Dark' was very stylish, and the mecha came out mainly, so 'By the way, Mr. Tajima said that he likes figures.' I remembered it. I didn't see many non-human things in Tajima-san's previous works, but I thought I could do it, so I asked Akita-san. So, if you talk to Mr. Tajima, he will do it for you.
That's why the point is that they are compatible with each other and that they can design mecha.
G:
Mr. Tajima, what was your impression when you first talked about 'Hunter Dark'?
Tajima:
At first, Mr. Honda called me 'I have a job' and said 'Oh, yeah'.
Honda:
Basically I don't refuse work (laughs)
Tajima:
I just heard that it was Akita-san's work. So 'Oh, yeah'.
Honda:
But first you said, 'I'll draw Robo.'
Tajima:
Ah! I was saying I was saying! That made me a little more excited!
Honda:
It's been a while since I drew Robo instead of a girl.
Akita:
I changed the name and title of the character from the original draft that was at the beginning, but from the time of that change, there was a feeling that the previous one could not be erased unless the other one came up, so the other person I bullied the editor because I had to ask for the design (laughs)
Shibata:
It was very tough. I didn't have any specific candidates, but there was a saying, 'You have to exceed it.' Isn't it quite difficult? The worst pattern was because I was afraid that Mr. Akita would say 'This is a little ...' after the illustration was completed. When it was decided that Mr. Tajima would do it, I felt that I had no idea what to do with the paintings that came out.
Tajima:
But I got a little retake ...
Akita:
Who put in the retake?
Tajima:
Ah, that's a good story, and at first I was asked to draw a lot of robots and machine people on the cover, but when I drew a lot, I thought that the colors would be flickering and it wouldn't fit, so let's go alone That's why I put out a rough that only one person can draw. Then he said, 'Please put in a girl.' 'Put in a gal robo' (laughs)
Akita:
Retake, I was there too. When changing the title, if you add ' Kurayami Thief Juro ', 'I don't understand the meaning' (laughs)
Shibata:
It's not a historical drama (laughs) Shitara-san, can you put out a cover picture now?
Shitara:
You can put it out. this.
Tajima:
Yes, this. After all it is useless if you do not include girls. Originally I was thinking of making a cool painting with one piece, but it's useless if I don't have a gal for sale.
Akita:
Nothing must be a gal.
Honda:
At first, I was just talking about shuriken.
Shibata:
Did the design go awry?
Tajima:
No, suddenly. The one I drew a lot at the beginning was not good, and when I was alone, I said, 'Oh, one person is cool.'
G:
At first, did you have any orders before drawing?
Tajima:
No, I feel like I was saying a lot of Robo.
Shibata:
There are a lot of teams in the story, so you want to see them all. So, 'Please give me everything.'
Honda:
At first, the cover was supposed to be full of robots, but when I see this, I think it's better.
Shitara:
This is definitely better.
Shibata:
There are only 'hunters' on the cover, but on the inside, other machine people will be on the doors of each chapter.
◆ 'How much should I sell my raw manuscript?'
G:
By the way, what kind of tools does Mr. Tajima use when drawing the manuscript?
Tajima:
It's hand-painted. Color ink.
Shibata:
Do you not use it at all, what about your computer?
Tajima:
Yup. I've drawn a little bit. Only for a moment.
Shibata:
Recently, even the original image is often scanned and then only the data is sent, but the raw manuscript is impressive.
Akita:
I can't forget it on the train.
Shibata:
I will never forget it (laughs)
Tajima:
I've forgotten the illustration to give to the station.
Shitara:
When did you talk about that (laughs)
Tajima:
About 5 years ago.
Shitara:
In what kind of situation?
Tajima:
No, I don't know ... I forgot. It's a story at a station on the Odakyu line, but when I got on the train from there, I waited in a good mood and forgot. I was thinking of giving it to Shinjuku.
Akita:
Did you come out properly?
Tajima:
After a while on the train, I noticed 'Oh, no!' And immediately called the station and asked 'Did you receive such a drawing board?' It was good ~. I couldn't give it, so I called the person I gave it and said, 'I forgot to go to the station.'
Shibata:
Now that drawing is mostly data, it seems that more and more editors have never experienced the horror of raw manuscripts. Therefore, I have to be very careful when I am in charge of Mr. Tajima. Have you ever been told 'Please send by email'?
Tajima:
Oh, but I know it's hand-painted, so everyone will come to pick it up. Sometimes when a young editor says, 'I'll send you the manuscript by email,' it clicks. Don't be afraid, bring it with you.
Shibata:
I'm glad that Mr. Tajima handed it to me, and if I'm not good at it, there are people who just put it in a bag and hang it at the entrance. You may not want to see your face because you are a female creator or you are so tired after work. It can't be helped, but that is lonely.
Also, there are times when you can't show the middle of hand-painting. It's easy to send data, but in the case of Mr. Tajima, it's hand-painted.
Tajima:
I send it by fax, such as when I first put the pen in, but I'm not in the middle of painting.
Shibata:
If it's data, I get it sent even while I'm painting it, but in the case of Mr. Tajima, it's already completed next to the pen, so I don't know until I receive it. Shitara-san, you were really nervous when you got the manuscript.
Shitara:
I was nervous. You thought about various things. I wonder if I should take a green car on my way home. It's a lie.
Tajima:
It ’s okay, I said I ’m back in a green car. Green cars are cheap on Saturdays.
Shitara:
Then I'll be back on the green next time (laughs)
Honda:
Mr. Tajima is always awake when he goes to pick up the manuscript. But some people are hanging at the front door, and some are inside the gas meter box. It's a key.
Shibata:
There are many people who don't hand it over because it's finished in a very tight situation.
Honda:
Mr. A had about 5 pellas in the box and said, 'Is it 5 today?'
Tajima:
It seems different now. I'm giving it to the receptionist of the condominium now. I recently heard a complaint about it. I said 'It's hard', so when I asked 'Isn't it Mr. A?', He said 'Eh!'.
G:
However, it is very valuable that hand-drawn manuscripts remain.
Shibata:
I want to put it in a frame and decorate it. That's a completely different feeling, isn't it? The difference between a duplicate original picture and an original picture. That's why I want to put this cover in the frame and decorate it at the entrance.
Tajima:
Oh, please decorate it. But what should I do in the end after the original picture is returned?
Shibata:
That's a great question (laughs)
Tajima:
A long time ago, when I went to
Shibata:
Mr. Tajima, do you keep everything at hand?
Tajima:
Yeah, I think it's all or lost.
Akita:
It may be good to sell it to someone who will save it properly.
Shibata:
I'm a painter.
Honda:
But when you sell it, art dealers gather.
Tajima:
Will it be resold? No, but how much should I sell?
Akita:
It's difficult to put it on by yourself (laughs)
Tajima:
I haven't drawn it anymore because it's too much trouble, but in the past I used to draw A3 manuscripts, and at the very end I made a mistake and redrawn it, but I gave the failed one to Mr. Obata. .. Mr. Obata says 'I want it'. It was 'Teito Monogatari'.
Honda:
I don't think I saw Mr. Amano's paintings of papyrus or special paper with only Gatchaman's eyes drawn on 200,000.
Tajima:
Are you serious! But at that time, Amano-san's solo exhibition was about 200,000, which was the picture of Amano-san when I thought it was the best, but I wanted it.
G:
When was it?
Tajima:
It was around the time when the very first art book came out, and I think it was around the time when I was drawing something like '
Shibata:
Mr. Akita, do you want the original picture of your title?
Akita:
But it's not CG, it's just like Mr. Kusagawa ... Mr. Kusagawa ... I don't feel like I'm saving it properly (laughs) It seems that it's in a storeroom. It's a selfish image. At the time of ' Kana Spica ', I was doing a solo exhibition, so I thought I'd go, but I couldn't. I was wondering if I should buy it.
Shibata:
The original picture is absolutely amazing. As CG increases from now on, the opposite value will come out.
Honda:
Then, if Mr. Tajima had a solo exhibition when he collected the art books.
Tajima:
Oh, I'll do it.
Honda:
Don't look like that (laughs)
Tajima:
Price it?
Honda:
No, don't sell it. Just look.
Tajima:
But I want to do a solo exhibition. Oh yeah, that reminds me of the story of the painting, but at the end of March, Asukashinsha will release my art book 'Rosary Yeti' . Thank you for your cooperation with 'Hunter Dark'.
◆ The highlight of 'Hunter Dark' is 'Absurd but serious view of the world'
G:
Is it a feeling that 'Hunter Dark' is completed for the time being in this one volume?
Akita:
As a continuation, I think there is nothing I can't write, but I wonder if I've done what I want to do for the time being.
Shibata:
If it becomes popular, there may be more! (Laughs) 'Hunter Dark' was designed by Mr. Tajima, so I would like to expand it to manga, figures, and so on. The most important thing is that I want to make it a three-dimensional object.
Akita:
It's a toy-like character, and I have a strong sense of toys. I have a longing for modeling. As was the case with Mr. Tajima's painting, the arm was properly spring-loaded.
G:
I think it will be a very different work from Akita-san's works such as 'Sorcerous Stabber Orphen', but what are the highlights?
Akita:
Well, I think it will be a very unusual work. I think there was a cold point of view in my writing style, so-called meta-feeling, but I try to eliminate it as much as possible. So I think there are a lot of strange things to read, but rather, do you see the world where you are completely immersed in such absurd and seriousness? I made it because I wanted to make something like a toy box.
Actually, I don't use anything out of the ordinary as an element of the story. I don't think there's anything I've read and never seen before. However, when I looked at the final shape, I thought that there wasn't much else, and I wrote it while imagining such a landing point. When you look at the overall product, it's something you've never seen.
That's why it's difficult to explain the storyline. That's the standard of cartoons in me, and even if I explain the story of cartoons, I can only say 'de?', But the finished product is very interesting.
Honda:
Given the standard of 'what is science fiction?', I think it means 'creating the world.' In that sense, 'Hunter Dark' is very particular about the settings.
Shibata:
The view of the world is amazing, isn't it? If you read it lightly, you can read it without worrying about the world view, but it's very well done, so pay attention to the world view.
G:
When you think of 'machine people,' you have a strong image of '
Akita:
For me, 'machine person' is the image of 'Kikaider'. That is artificial intelligence, but when the existence of man-made objects appears, it asks what humans are. Of course, there is the influence of special effects, and I am aiming for a nostalgic theme.
Honda:
In that sense, it may be a classic story.
Akita:
That's right. When you look at it as an element, you should be consciously picking up something you have seen somewhere.
◆ Everyone likes figures
Shitara:
When I tried to go to the figure store today, it was closed.
Tajima:
so. Disappointed.
Shibata:
There was a figure specialty store called Blister in Shibuya, but that also collapsed.
Tajima:
I'm lonely.
Shibata:
The blister in Harajuku is
Akita:
Nowadays, I'm dissatisfied with the same product lineup at any store. The toys have become somewhat systematic, haven't they? Speaking of which, the ' Borderlands ' triangular robot was accepting reservations, but it hasn't been released yet.
Shibata:
Where do you always buy Tajima-san?
Tajima:
I go to Akihabara about once a year for mail order, but it feels like the day is over at the Radio Kaikan.
Akita:
But I feel that the Radio Kaikan has become quite small. When I went around and saw something like a sketch, I found that the stores were quite vacant.
Shibata:
What's happening on Nakano Broadway now?
Akita:
Broadway hasn't changed. It doesn't increase or decrease. Recently, it seems that 'AdWords' is increasing slightly.
Shibata:
Does Tajima-san not go to Broadway?
Tajima:
I used to live in Nakano. It's about half a year. At that time, I went to Broadway every day. It's been over 10 years ago. It was around the time when toy stores were popping up, and I used to go there often after I moved to Musashisakai.
Shibata:
Then, if you buy a figure, Nakano or Akihabara ...
Tajima:
Also, I used to go to Kichijoji. There was ' Post Hobby ' and ' Kotobukiya '.
G:
What genre of figures do you buy?
Tajima:
Movie guys, anything else.
Akita:
After all, when I see it at the store, it says 'Oh, this is it!' That's why I bought foreign toys that I didn't understand at all.
Tajima:
Oh yeah (laughs)
Akita:
I don't know what it is, but when you pull the tail, the monster waves its hand. I wonder what this is.
Shitara:
What did you buy recently?
Tajima:
Recently, the new '
Akita:
The one I bought recently was Arthur Dent from the movie ' Galaxy Hitchhiking Guide ', although I didn't know it was out and was in a basket. There was a doll with that very scary face. Bring a towel like this. So, looking behind it, I knew that there was a Marvin stuffed animal, and I want it, but I don't know where to sell it.
G:
Do you like the 'Galaxy Hitchhiking Guide' series?
Akita:
Yeah, I love it. After all I like the original.
G:
They have something in common in terms of figures and toy lovers. But after all, if there is no store, the fun will be halved.
Akita:
That well-taken photo from the mail order comes to me (laughs).
Tajima:
But I bought a Hot Toys guy the other day.
G:
Speaking of Hot Toys, I just
Akita:
Ironman! I thought at Christmas time, 'I wish Santa gave me this!' (Laughs)
Tajima:
Was there something special?
Akita:
No, what I saw was the resale of the one I had before. Others are ... War Machine.
Tajima:
That guy who fought last?
Akita:
The silver one worn by his partner in ' Iron Man 2 '.
G:
At the Hot Toys event, Hiroya Oku of ' GANTZ ' and Iron Man designed by Kojima Productions of ' Metal Gear ' were exhibited, which was a little interesting.
Honda:
I love Mr. K, right?
Tajima:
Ah, Mr. K seems to like it.
Honda:
Competing with the rich Chinese at auction.
Tajima:
Ah, Batman's Yahoo Auction. It also contains Mr. A.
Akita:
It's interesting to see the three of them competing in front of a computer (laughs)
◆ Akita family cat, Tajima family cat and Axolotl
Honda:
Does Akita have any creatures?
Tajima:
Suddenly that (laughs)
Akita:
There is a cat near my parents' house.
Honda:
How many cats is Tajima-san?
Tajima:
I have 4 of them now.
G:
Did you pick up the cat?
Tajima:
I picked up all of my things at Kichijoji or something like that. Just a short walk to the side of the Broadway shopping street.
Shibata:
Did you bring it?
Tajima:
Something like this ... I felt like I had to take him. It was a motorcycle, so I bought a bag and put it in. Like a kidnapping. When I asked at a store in the neighborhood, I was a stray cat, and I got food there, and an aunt at a store in the neighborhood said, 'This is food,' and I got 1000 yen.
Shibata:
Do you still have that child?
Tajima:
I still have it.
Akita:
Cats are encounters. Humans have no right to choose.
Shitara:
By the way, does Akita-san and this cat look like that?
Akita:
If you keep a cat, you'll take it to the vet. Most of the patterns you get there.
Tajima:
Sometimes it's thrown away in front of the hospital.
Akita:
Seeing that, my parents take me home. So after all, there are about 4 of them.
Honda:
Isn't it difficult to keep four?
Akita:
Well, it doesn't change much whether you keep one or four.
Tajima:
But the room gets dirty four times. The toilet is also four times as large.
Shitara:
The meal is also four times as much. What are cats eating?
Tajima:
eh……? Cat food.
Akita:
Why did you have any doubts there (laughs)
Shitara:
I wonder if I'm feeding Neko Manma. After all, do you like or dislike cats?
Tajima:
I have one cat with urinary stones, so everyone has to eat urinary stones.
Akita:
Is that expensive guy?
Tajima:
It's expensive, it costs a lot of food (laughs)
Shitara:
Is it a meal for urinary stones? I don't want to be a Tajima family cat (laughs)
Tajima:
But it looks delicious. I'm eating sedges.
Akita:
In the case of my cat, it seems that cats also have a power relationship, so I think they will feed four cats, and then one will eat about two, and only one will be very plump. .. I have a cat that weighs about 7 kg, but it has a great silhouette. But it can't be helped, because it pushes other cats away and eats.
Honda:
When I go to Mr. Tajima's workplace, there is an axolotl that is the same size as the aquarium.
Tajima:
See you. It's not the same size.
Akita:
With what I said now, it was an image that the aquarium was completely packed (laughs).
Tajima:
It ’s huge, right? ...... It's huge.
G:
How big is it?
Tajima:
I wonder if it's about this ... (pick up the split). It might be bigger than this.
(Editor's note: Axolotl's body length is about 20 cm on average)
Shibata:
Did you grow up to that extent?
Tajima:
Yup. In a few years.
Shitara:
When I visited him the other day, he didn't come out in hiding. What's your name?
Tajima:
name? 'Woo'. It looks like a female because it produces eggs. But since there are no males, it's a waste.
Honda:
At the very beginning, I was very angry when I was asked 'Can you eat this one?'
Tajima:
But it seems that you can eat it.
Shitara:
It's cute, isn't it? What year is it?
Tajima:
It's about 4 years.
◆ Until Shou Tajima aims to become a cartoonist
G:
When did Mr. Tajima become a manga artist?
Tajima:
I've been thinking about it since I was in elementary school or junior high school. Become a manga artist! What?
G:
Are you an elementary school student! Do you remember the manga you read for the first time?
Tajima:
I wonder ... I think it's something like '
Akita:
I'm ' Microid S '. When I was a kid, I was taken to a bookstore, and there were 3 volumes in total, but for some reason I had them buy only 1 and 2 volumes. I don't know why I didn't say I wanted up to 3 volumes, but I read it when I was a kid, became an adult without knowing the last, and finally read it after I became an adult.
Honda:
It's a masterpiece, isn't it?
Tajima:
Was 'Microid S' a masterpiece? I don't know because I haven't read 'Microid S', but I can't read Tezuka Osamu's manga. No, I bought it, but I can't read it. 'Blackjack' is a one-shot, so you can read it in fragments.
G:
Do you have a longing work that made you want to become a manga artist?
Tajima:
Honda:
What did Mr. Eguchi draw at that time?
Tajima:
I've always liked Eguchi-san since he made his debut, so I've been reading ' Recommendations !! Pirates ' and ' Stop !! Hibari-kun! ' For the first time, Mr. Eguchi thought, 'A manga artist is cool.'
Honda:
I don't really talk about that.
Tajima:
Yup. I was very happy when I first met and talked to Mr. Eguchi.
G:
Do you have any memories of meeting the person you admire?
Akita:
That's right ... there is, there is, but when I meet, I'll get acquainted from that time ...
Honda:
How was
Akita:
Is it Mr. Kansaka? It doesn't really matter, but the first word I talked to with Mr. Kansaka pointed to Megumi Kobayashi, and the two of us said, 'I'm out of friends.' I don't remember the flow of the story for a moment, but it's probably the first conversation between me and Mr. Kansaka . That was a long time ago ...
Shibata:
How was it when you were with Isami Nakagawa , who said, 'As with everyone, we have to get a job '?
Akita:
I also love Mr. Nakagawa. Certainly when I met him, it was about to explode.
Tajima:
Mr. Nakagawa from ' Kuma no Poutarou '?
Akita:
Yes, of 'Kumapu'. I had him draw 'Matsumura-kun'. There should be a lot of such things, but when asked, they don't come out. Also, I like stage theater, but I'm watching it at a position of about 4 meters before I actually meet (laughs).
Shibata:
Are you a writer?
Akita:
Mr. Kansaka and Mr. Mizuno had read before their debut. Also, I couldn't meet you, but when I met people who liked Shinichi Hoshi for a long time and later said, 'At that time, Shinichi Hoshi said that.' I just felt like I met him. Many of the people who read it are dying before they meet. Ross Macdonald (laughs)
◆ For future writers
G:
Mr. Akita is a novelist and Mr. Tajima is a manga artist, so I think that it is a profession that even small children long for. Can you give a message to those who want to become a novelist or manga artist in the future?
Tajima:
The hurdle is high ... Mr. Akita, please.
Akita:
The job of a young writer who wants to become a writer when he grows up must be completely different from the job I'm doing now. Maybe there will be that much change in the future. Without it, everything would just be destroyed. In that sense, I don't care about the people I'm doing now, and I want them to have that kind of ambition, dreams, and hope.
Tajima:
It's wonderful. But I wonder if that will happen, really.
Akita:
I wonder if it can't be helped anymore. The tools you simply use will change, and maybe the system will change as well. Publishers may become different from their current form. Of course, it may not change at all. Well, I want you to dream of such a change. Maybe I can't do that job anymore.
Tajima:
Yes Yes. Believe in yourself.
G:
Thank you very much.
Finally, I took a two-shot of the two of them. 'Hunter Dark' will be released on Saturday, March 26, 2011. Please look forward to what it is like.
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