Explosive diffusion from the birth of Miku talked about by the protagonist of Hatsune Miku, and talk session talk about the future development

It was held at knowledge capital of Granfront OsakaLecture by ITO representative of Krypton Future media, Hatsune Miku's creatorFollowing, a talk session was held that welcomed the honor of Hatsune Miku Boom. Posted the full length of an hour-long talk session in which various topics were mixed up, from the chance of born animation of 'Polka + Onegi' who made famous Hatsune Miku famous, to Japanese culture view, and future dissemination of Japanese culture To do.

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Participating in the talk session was the creator who became the fire of Hatsune Miku BoomOtomaniaMr. Koyasan Alike Motoyama Sanbayo Deputy DirectorAll manner of flight(Mr. Hida Kazen), and Krypton Future mediaIto representativeThree of us. "Outlook for industrial creation of vocaloid contents toward the worldA discussion on the theme of "The theme was raised.

Mr. otomania:
Hello Good evening everyone, this is otomania. I think that someone I know knows, but in a nutshell, "Mike's boom was made by me," (venue haha). Well, I will not tell you that big, but I was calling Hatsune Miku's "fireblower", and Hatsune Miku has a green onion, right? I also gave it to me (Venue laugh). Oh well I was doing that kind of thing, now I do music activities mainly with Miku, I write stories, take pictures, I have made such things a lot. I'm pleased to meet you, today. (Clapping at the venue)


Mr. Futama Full Law ("Futaka"):
Good evening Everyone, I am Mr. Koya and I am from Fukata Total Law (Hida Kazenbo). As you can see, we are doing a monk (venue haha). I was talking with Ito representative ago, but I am deeply moved by the amazing place of everyone's enthusiasm. On the contrary, it is said that the power of ITO representative has passed out (venue laugh), and that atmosphere is the base of air that Hatsune Miku has "make it with everyone", is that such an atmosphere I feel it. I believe that today is not like we are going to speak words from the standpoint above but we will think about how we will develop the content industry together with you all together .


Everyone thinks "Why is there such a boss in this place?" (Laugh), I am currently doing a monk, but I used to do a lot of work before ,So-called"Bit valleyWhen IT venture is popular, just like Horie Takafumi something is going to be in the same generation, I am related to the business of IT system, or now Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry dispatched Japanese contents abroad Among the "cool Japan" that I am planning to do, I am in charge of something like a committee so I think that I could have called you to this place this time. I'm pleased to meet you, today. (Clapping at the venue)

Moderator:
Well then, I would like to talk with you on three sides. First of all, Ito and Mr. otomania are known to be involved in Hatsune Miku, but Mr. Futaka does not have much image of Miku Hatsune directly, so I'd like to ask you about Hatsune Miku What kind of impression or impression do you have?

Futaka:
Hatsune Miku has been watching Hikone Miku even at Nico Nico Douga, for example, it is a lecture by Ito, who was 30 minutes before this dialogue, but again I see that the fans are sympathizing with each other in time series Looking at it, I feel that "This is awesome thing going on". But then, why is this empathy spreading out? I think that it is not simply the level like "Characters are cute" simply. There is something that everyone is going to participate in oneself with one centripetal force called Miku, and that is why it will become a hint of future content industry in the future I do not feel like that.


Moderator:
In this time knowledge capital, we have experienced visitors with the theme of "Making hatsune miku by everyone!" Among them, otomania also held a "composition course", but how was that appearance?

Otomania:
It was interesting. The age group of everyone who attended was also wide, there were also many women, and everyone can be interested if we hold it, people will gather when the sound begins to rise "After all I thought that everyone is interested. " I wanted to tell you that it is not difficult to say such things as making songs or using Miko in this lecture course, but I felt it to you for everyone I think that it is not.

This time we held a workshop twice a day for two days, but on the first day and the second day the appearance of those who took a course is also quite different, the first day is relatively yuru Although it was an atmosphere, there were quite a few people on the second day on the 2nd day (laugh), and if it is too bothering here too, it will be a big deal (venue haha). It was a thrilling content anyway, as it was writing lyrics in just 10 minutes (laugh).


Moderator:
Certainly, when the lecture finished and came down the stage, it was sighing that "Haa ~" (laugh)

Otomania:
Especially the last time I wanted to praise myself "I did it well" (laugh)

Moderator:
In knowledge capital, I was thinking "to infinitely express myself through Hatsune Miku", and I think that if it is possible to provide a place of communication through such things, this is a culture that can not be felt quite else I think that it is not. Speaking of otomania, it is known as "a man who tried to sing" Yevan Porucka "in Miku, but can you tell us the chance of that?

Otomania:
The chance was really simple. Originally I was in the era of Vocaloid 1 who was in front of Hatsune Miku "Vocaloid 2"KAITOWhenMEIKOI also knew about that. At that time I had a part-time job shop at a certain PC shop, but at that time I was already touching vocaloids.


But at that time, I had to take a computer at the PC shop, even though I had a computer (venue laugh), I was in such a state so the music production of DTM had not done anything at all, It was stopped at the level of "There is software - fun ~".

Then, Hatune Miku appears as Vocaloid 2, but at this time I thought "This is amazing". Until then I am singing based on the so-called professional singing voice, but as you know, Miku was interesting in singing the voice of the voice actor. In the other, since there was a visual in the package, furthermore the character setting was written, I thought "This is kind of funny", so I tried buying it as a "playing tool" at the beginning. So, at first it was hard to talk to people, such as lyrics and parodies, making such kind of things and playing alone (venue haha). There is a place like "black history" already, but I can not put it in the absolute table, but at the beginning (the place laughing at the venue), at first I was listening to what I had made inside the group and enjoyed it.


Then one day my friend brought the friend and said "Hatsune Miku is interesting so please let me hear it." However, when I listen to such a work contrary to public order and morals like this, it becomes "my life \ (^ o ^) / Owata" (venue laughing), this is Ikan, is not it? So, I came up with the idea of ​​thinking "What if I make a foreign language sing, but this is software in Japanese?" Finnish folk song "Yevan PolkkaThat was it.

Then, when the echoes were good, at that time I made it a sharp miku shrunk to a couple of heads, then made a white eye or a slightly impossible Miku (laugh), it was so funny "It was funny!" So, with just the momentum, I made an image, attached accompaniment, I put in green on the original story, I made it, it was Yevan Porca uploaded to Nico Nico Douga.

Ievan Polkka 【Yevan Polkka】 - Hatsune Miku 【Miku Hatsune】 VOCALOIDCv01


Ito representative (hereinafter "Ito"
That was pretty early, was not it? Certainly, it seems like it was in the beginning of September ...?


Otomania:
Well, I think that the release of Miku was August 31, but it was September 1st that I gave Nico Nico video! (Venue haha) Everyone I do not know this, but before I upload the movie, on September 1, I am uploading the song only version to Nico Dance (venue gorgeous). Then, let's make a picture later. So, I deleted the version of the original song only, I made a movie with two-and-a-half rush construction and uploaded it again on September 4th.

Ito:
When I saw it, I was quite surprised. I feel like weakness ... ...

Otomania:
When you finish making something that is finished ... After a while you will come out calmly yourself? Then I was an objective person like "What are you doing me?" (Venue laughing at the venue). But, thankfully received a great response, being enshrined even on the net ... ...

Ito:
It was a feeling that addicts were continuing.

Otomania:
When the "infection rate" was the highest, about 100,000 patients came to visit (playing the animation) per day, I really felt thank you for good memories .

Moderator:
Was not it a great boom and the environment changed too?

Otomania:
It has changed. But myself, there is a part that has not changed since then, but I have wanted to make fun things and fun things, I liked to make people laugh from a childhood very much is. But, as a elementary and junior high school student, children who take such behavior and behavior in class think that there is a part of feeling worse from girls (laugh). So, without a lot of motivation, I am walking in a subservient life, becoming to play alone, leading to a story of solo play alone in the previous Miku.

However, as a result, I think that it was really good that I could do something for everyone to enjoy doing like this.

Moderator:
Is not that a story that you do not know so much?

Otomania:
Well, probably, I think that Kore is the first public episode in Japan.

Moderator:
Have Mr. Futaka also have seen the movie?

Futaka:
of course. After all I think that it is important to keep such "valuable histories of the testimony" as a kitchen in history (lol), I think that it was a valuable moment, but then, why then that song I think that it is not becoming a reason such as "It was." "Why was that folk song?"


It is probably a coincidence that folk songs lead to something like common memories of a certain ethnic group, but maybe it is a coincidence that "something" like Miku 's atmosphere is suitable for that deep psychological It seems that things lead to the empathy of many people. Another thing is that another person who was extremely introverted and could not participate in society triggered the "creation" to be involved in society as a trigger, so that the pleasure of creation that everyone would have I think there is a part that can be experienced through Miku, is not it? So, in the earlier story, I think that even though otomania 's little experiences, there was something to say about that part.

Otomania:
I felt it was a great tool to express entertainment in myself. That is why I got over it, and I think that it was indeed to say that I was able to do with the momentum.

Futaka:
One of them thinks that there is a part called "character existence", did Mr Itoh consciously included it there? I think it makes sense to create an environment that anyone can create.

Ito:
In fact, there are not so many people who are making music with computers (laugh). As such itself is very small, I thought that innovative technologies would be very limited if I appealed only to the world of computer music. There are an estimated 500,000 people doing DTM, but if you go by population ratio it is only about 0.5%. So, if you aim only at the people there, I think that setting a character like Miku will be unnecessary. Rather it is called "an evil way", it is seen in a little color monochrome.


So, if you actually try to aim for music production, you do not need "I do not need it", but 99.5% is better than 0.5% for many people, conversely to people in those layers There was a kind of idea like if something interesting happens if you use it. Where there seems to be a character, there seems to be a part that can be seen with white eyes, which is not so welcome.

Fortunately, as of 2004, MEIKO was on sale, and the reaction was also nice. So, I knew that "Ah, this kind of route is ant", so there was a trend how to make a little more time when Miku was. I developed it as DTM software, but there was also a desire to make it appealable to not only there.

Otomania:
What I thought was that in packages like Hatsune Miku I thought that there were many elements accepted by everyone in various good balance. The first thing I thought was, for example, that I used voice actors in voice, but I guess that if it's just that it ends up as a transient topic. I think that the elements such as characters, visuals, height and age were not included in it so much. I think that its free width and "Juru" part matched the constitution and ethnicity of the Japanese people.

I think, but I think that Japanese are not good at making "from zero from 1", but on the contrary "I will change one to two or three" I think that it is a very good ethnic group. I think that Miku is exactly the case for such soil.


Ito:
Miku is what we made honestly at the company storeroom (laugh). So I think that what I was thinking there was big. In terms of urliness, the former is a computer music tool, so if there is a completed story too, it will mean that I do not know anymore. For example, angel's feathers are drawn or you can not jazz with a skull shaped guitar, do you? After all, it is possible to respond to any genre because it keeps it like that it is wood grain tone to some extent. So, if you decide the setting too much and do it like "Yes, this genre", you will not be able to move anymore.

However, he says that he needs a minimum person or something like "touch". But if you put too much there, it will give constraints, so we are doing that in moderation.

Otomania:
Well, I think the sense of balance in that neighborhood was very good. Because there were such constraints, it was good because it was drawn, for example, "This is a voice actorSaki Fujita'S voice. Here you are! I think that it ended there when it got delivered in the state like 'I do not have it.' Therefore, I think that the balance of the setting part was very good.

Futaka:
In the field of production and creation, I think there is something more freedom than having absolutely no constraints. I believe that some restrictiveness is necessary as a trigger for production. For example, if you do not have a framework rule of "five, seven, five" for Tanka or Waka, you think that you can not do it even if you say "I can sing anything because it is anything".

Perhaps, Miku Hatsune really is able to participate by many people regardless of every generation or country, is it possibly Japanese-style? However, there seems to be a difficult part of how far we can say "Japanese", and we may not necessarily argue that it is "specific to Japan" in a limited way. Perhaps we Japanese have thought about whether we brought such things in culture or history, but for example, there are books of old poetry such as Manyoshu? That's why the people at the bottom of society and those at the Emperor level are reciting themselves on the same line. There is a tradition that both aristocrats and farmers have collaborated on production in the same field on a single platform called "Waka". We do not read Waka song much from usual but I think that such things are unconscious.


That is the story "Why did you choose Finnish folk songs?" That does not mean anything by any means, is it? Because it is not a Finnish person (hall laugh).

Otomania:
Well, maybe it's just "funny", is not it?

Futaka:
Somehow I will be addicted, If you explore the kind of feeling like that, it seems that some sort of cultural things behind us are working.

Ito:
It is not to say that we are excluding tolerance or mutually incompatible things, but as a "it is that", please go ahead and do something, a kind of culture may be in Japan Is not it?

Otomania:
It's going to be a little big story, but I do not mean to criticize a particular religion, but there are wars all over the world? I think that it is fighting for reasons that "their gods are number one, only one" when they speak in a rough way. But I think Japanese are not that much. There is a part that is rather tolerant, if you take elements of various countries, make various things into gods, or put it in a habitual way, you are "personified". I think that there is a part that leads to those parts.


Ito:
I think that there is an essential part. There is a difference between ideas of "polytheism" and "monotheism", and I think that "personification" is a way of thinking that polytheism is the result of a background. For example, I do not know the meaning of "Mountain is crying" or not (laugh). There are times when I talk to some Romanian's geeky guy, I already know everything. "In Japan, there are Gods in various things, do not they have mountains, stone stones, grass, are they?" However, he does not yield that "God is one person."

Futaka:
Just a little monky story ... (laugh). Everyone, we will go to Namiboshi 's Bell of Night Birds, to a temple. But, with that foot that struck the bell, this time I'm going to a shrine for a New Year at the shrine (meeting place lol)? If you think carefully about it, you mean "it's a dutch?"

Ito:
A Christmas cake a week ago (laugh).


Futaka:
So from a monotheistic person it is something like "I do not know what you mean" already. But then, then it is not said that if Japanese people say "I'm sorry". Where I am is Koya mountain, where the monk, Mr. Kukai (Kobo Daishi), opened. There, it was originally God's land. By saying that the land of God that was in the place of "Amano" at the foot of Koyasan, Mr. Kukai used for "training"It was from Emperor Saga of those daysIt's a place.

But, if you think carefully, it will not be possible to open a dojo dojo in God's land (laugh). If it is normal it should be thought that it will be a battle for seeing blood, but when I say what Karakai did, I went to the local god greeting, and "Because we open the dojo, the landlord god here Please do it "and I will invite you to the cotch side. It seems like "Let's do it together" from the beginning. This comes out in historyShinto buddhism studyThe god of God and the Buddha is fusion, and originally God is inherent in Japan, but next time it comes to entering Japan from India from China and coexisting both, Japan actually has 1000 years It has been continuing for over.

Otomania:
It is collaboration is not it ~.

Futaka:
Yes, it's collaboration (laugh). Even if such a collaboration arrives for 1200 years, it is not finished in just a collaboration anymore. In other words, the characters themselves are fused together. For example, Mr. BentenWonderful deed) Is originally a Buddha, but now it seems that the torii are built in front of it. You are fusing from visuals, right?


Otomania:
Seven lucky gods think so well that is not it.

Futaka:
That's right. That is already various people participating as "creators", making it possible to add more and more benefits (venue haha). I already mixed a lot, so I do not know what is somewhat yet, but I think that Japan has originally a culture that enables such things. There was something that organized it neatly, not munchaka.

Otomania:
It is said that the streak is passing through properly.

Futaka:
When it lasted for 1200 years, it itself settled as one culture style, and it has become established as a landscape or ritual. That is where UNESCO says "There is no other thing", it is one of the big reasons that Koyasan area was designated as a world heritage site. "The tradition of Shinto and Buddhism has coexisted for over 1000 years, and it still continues as a ceremonial landscape.

Otomania:
Even if you are in the bottom, it is that it is decided as it is, there is constraint.

Futaka:
That's right. It is the same as the story of Hatsune Miku just before, and there are restrictions like 'Height is 158 cm', and it is not about anything ali to fuse, it means that various people refine creative is. Let's raise the quality even more. Koyasan is 1200 years, but the history of Japan is longer. Shinto or Ise Shrine or something, it has already lasted more than 2000 years.

Otomania:
Given that Miku is communicating with Miku, it will be said that Miku will flourish for the next 2,000 years (laugh)?

Futaka:
Well there is not it (laugh). Because, the name "Miku" is somewhat like "Miko (Miko)", is not it? (Venue Hiroyomi) There is a lyric like "You came beyond the limits of science", but it seems that you are longing for transcendental things like "Messiah" who came to us from the top There is a place to connect with things. That's why I feel the world view of "Miku" about Miku.


Ito:
There are things that Miku can say "anything ant" or anything. I think that it was a profound role playing the "storytelling department" originally to communicate the area and people. When it came to be consumed as "goods" this time, I think that it has happened that consuming and making uncompromising, comfortable lyrics and world view like fashion. I think that messages sent by one individual have been killed in scale distribution. I heard that only the pros made could not be distributed. So, I think that it is a new way of claiming a message that the new "storytelling division" called lyrics to send to the world through a video sharing site.

Otomania:
I talked about "Japanese are good at making 1 to 2 or 3" before, but I think that vocaloid is a tool suitable for that expression. In other words, I think it is a tool that made it easy to express and express the view of the world that I own. So, it is a culture of the so-called "doujinshine" that manifests the desire to express such a character that he admires as his own view of the world, so Hatsune Miku was a very good tool in terms of its expression tool think.

Moderator:
I mentioned earlier that "Miku will continue in 2000 for the rest of the year", but I think that the things that make, communicate and communicate with are not a boom but a culture. What do you think is what supports cultures?

Otomania:
I think that it is "respect". I think that the word "Thank you!" Came out at the end of the lecture by former Ichi Ito, but as the feeling of "thank you" goes and goes together, both the making and the viewers gradually become big things I think that it will get on. As I was at the time of "Yevan Polka", I think that such gratitude is important.

Ito:
It is hard to make money, but anyone can say "thank you" easily.

Otomania:
"Smile is 0 yen" So (laugh)

Futaka:
I think motivation to make creativity and things, not monetary is truly right, I think that it is true that it is open source of the Internet and hacker culture has such a place, so never Although it may not be a culture unique to Japan, while what is called "hacker" is seen as a kind of special world, there were soils empirically accepting such things in Japan It might be. Then, there might be a base that spreads without limiting to just a special place, and ordinary people can also get in with it. That is why it may have been that this has spread in Japan.


But since it is only understandable only in Japan, it has spread to the world. But it seems to me that Japan has become part of its core, perhaps the culture we have brought as an experience may have some function.

Otomania:
I think there are quite a few people who do not have consciousness of "they are starting" but I think that the neighborhood can have more confidence. I think that there are many things you can do because it is Japanese. Even Lady Gaga liked Miku, so it was appointed to the undercard. I think that the part there is confident as "Japan brand" is not it?

Futaka:
It is unexpected that we do not know about ourselves and it is not until we go abroad that we only realize that there are things like "I do not know about myself at all" of Japan. However, if it is the current age of the Internet, it may be noticed as soon as possible without going abroad. Somewhat, what I thought is good is a big topic even overseas, what I thought was normal is becoming an image of YouTube and it seems like "I love Japan" that kind of thing There are as many as you can. So, I think that it is very familiar to say that we have the opportunity to recognize ourselves.

Creators who make content also need to say something. If that is my experience, the experience of my predecessor, and the whole of culture, I think that accessing such things will make them more aware of themselves in the era of market share. In that sense, the existence of Hatsune Miku makes us feel that we have the possibility to create something more for us.

Otomania:
I think that the part of Vocaloid culture which is different from the culture of the past is interactive nature or the speed of response. From the creator side the accessibility from both the top and bottom of the end user is very fast and responses are fast between creators, and from there you can get excited at a stroke with enormous momentum and the result is Hatsune Miku or Magical I think that it might lead to excitement like Mirai.

Futaka:
What is the height of this heat?


Otomania:
For me it's part of "Nori". Thinking with 'Ali' or 'None', you think that it is the part that is moving in the part of 'Ali Jiro'. It is related to the story of the religious war a while ago, but I think that there is a part where each other thinks that "it is such an thing is an ant".

I had a time when I was making Flash animation, but it is still before Nico Douga or YouTube comes out, but so-calledFLASH Golden AgeIt is a time called. So, what is happening in that era is that the battle of condemnation begins, "The work of a Flash craftsman is nice, but the work of another craftsman is shit". Such an exclusive core fans' conflict began, and writers outside of the mosquito net and general fans got uncomfortable and gone, it happened. So, the video sharing site appeared there, and the world of Flash faded.

It is the world of one Miku, but after all the stuff like that comes to the ears and the ears. Then, there is something to say that my heart hurts from the person who knows the situation of the past. So, everyone who gets together like this do you like Miku? Then, I would like you to say that kind of generous feelings. Let me put my feeling a little next to me, I admit that "there are such expressions," I accept, accept and raise, I think that cultures will increase in acceleration.

Ito:
After otomania uploaded the first Miku movie in early September, secondary creation and tertiary creation increased greatly, did not it? A lot of new things are posted on the day. When experiencing such a situation, I'm thinking "Why is this happening?" Because someone has altered what he raised without permission, some people think that "putting in hands on mine" comes to mind. However, I think that there was a part that we are looking forward to "there are such expressions" without thinking so. I also did.


Well, that is the essence of this kind of culture, I respect it, it also leads to making Piapro, but when I made a movie using some illustration on the net "Thank you for using" I think that some people think they are angry when some people say "what they do" and they do get angry. In response to the voice that I want you to do something there, I can do Piapro, but I think that it is a problem to say a word "Thank you" for saying "I used it" or "Thank you". It was Piapro that shaped it.

I think it will be the same as before, but I think it is boring story that it is divided into "Heitsu" and "Koitsu" and it is a boring story, so I think that it is important all the time to communicate feelings.

What is required about the future dissemination of culture
Moderator:
It is now being promoted to transmit Japanese culture, including "cool Japan" framework, but what is missing and how to do it last I will call on you.

Otomania:
Although I came out with the previous story, I think that it is necessary to have confidence in what they are sending and tolerance and appreciation for what other people are sending. Speaking in a word, it means "Love".


Futaka:
Since I have been involved in the efforts of "cool Japan" before as a commentator, I know somewhat of the current movement, but just yesterday was "Cool Japan promotion meetingThere was a new proposal, but it was a big theme to think first about what "cool Japan does not go well" its content. By redesigning the way of doing things, it is central to thatEtsuke TachikawaHe is a young man in his thirties in his thirties, but people in that generation can naturally think about how to relate to society as a sense of origin. In the 70's generation like us, there is a part that moves after considering "do something social", but now social-based venture people can do it naturally. So in this proposal various people are involved, people in the administration repeatedly stay up all night long, so it is an interesting recommendation, so I hope you all want to see if you are interested.

CJ Movement Promotion Council (5th) Depending on the agenda
http://www.cas.go.jp/jp/seisaku/cool_japan/cj/dai5/gijisidai.html

I think that there was "sympathizing" with the story that I came out earlier, but if you are a friend of mine who is managing various music festivals with my friends, the important thing for Fes is "everyone will join" That seems to be true. It is important not just to go to the festival to listen to music, to fashionably and to share the air of the place. A trailer movie with a very high quality ahead of festo is transmitted by Bang Bang on YouTube and others, there are environments making people think that they want to participate "over there. So, first of all, there is contents that you sympathize as information, and I think how important it is to create a place to actually share it.


In that sense, there are places where you can connect with real members who were usually offline while being realistic events like "Magical Mirai" held on August 30, and that is spreading to the world "I'm expecting Honmaru is Japan, so I hope that such events will be held more and more in Japan as well.

Ito:
It is also what I say (bitter smile), cool Japan somewhere "horizontally moving" like, there are parts that are unfolded by bringing things in Japan as it is, When I go to another country, I think that selling things that can be sold will have to be sold unless it matches the land. So, in fact I think that there are many things to say about what to bring, but the high level of creativity created in the root part of ordinary people is outstandingly possibly in Japan I do not think so. Because I think that half of the girls in the class of the school can draw illustration well, that it is not normally the case. I think that there is such a skill of self expression and I think that being interested can be called Japanese resources and assets.


But I think that such part is called underground, or as a subculture against the main culture, there are parts that are "sealed" in some kind, but the part of the height of that creative I think that you can do more active. However, it is not just about doing it in the world now, whether it is only necessary to draw animation as it is, whether to draw manga, collaborate in more places and collaborate in various places, that kind of line of sight I think that it is necessary.

I think that the level of human resources that underpin that kind of culture is very high, the country that is called Japan. However, if you go through Cool Japan etc., I think that it will become a thing like "how to sell the work" and you will feel stuck out so there is a chance in the more different part, if you stimulate that part I think that there is a great opportunity sleeping.

Otomania:
If you think about that, there is still more possibility.

Moderator:
Time has come here. Even knowledge capital thinks that we want to aim to "relationship with people, beginning with connection". As I mentioned in everyone's story, I think that I would like to expand from these relationships. Thank you very much for a long time today.