Interview with Masahiko Minami, an animation production company, talked about the meaning of animating 'Jose, the Tiger and the Fish' and his thoughts on the work he created.
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GIGAZINE (G):
Since the interview has not been released yet, it may be a strange question suddenly, but from the producer's point of view, how much hit do you expect when making such a movie version animation?
Bonds representative, Masahiko Minami producer (hereinafter, south):
I want a lot of people to see it. However, as a production company, I think it's fun to ask what kind of work to keep. 'Jose' is produced mainly by KADOKAWA's producer Kasahara, our producer
G:
(smile)
South:
Why did you decide to do it? I made the final decision, but when I read the original short story, I quickly fell into the category of 'fantasy' within me. I felt that the part where the hearts of Jose and Tsuneo communicated with each other was expressed in such a story, which made me feel that it was very suitable for animation. The director may be different, but for me. The reason why the animation of this work is closer to fantasy than reality is that there is no choice but to express it with a hand-drawn picture rather than being played by an actor. However, if this work is to be expressed by animation, it may make sense for our company to do it.
G:
So that's it.
South:
Producer Suzuki has been
G:
'Jose, the Tiger and the Fish' is a famous work that was also made into a live-action movie, so I heard the name, but I did not notice which production studio would be animated just by looking at the picture and wrote 'Bonds' I was surprised to see that it was 'Seriously !?'
South:
Most people who come to me say so (laughs)
G:
G:
Mr. Minami has joined Sunrise after graduating from the Department of Imaging Planning, Faculty of Arts, and the current Department of Imaging. Why did you choose the Department of Imaging Planning, Faculty of Arts, Osaka University of Arts in the first place?
South:
Why did you choose it? I was born in 1961 and was a sticky TV generation, and I was born in the countryside of Owase in Mie prefecture, so 'movies' were very special. is. Because there was only one movie theater nearby. When I moved to Yokkaichi from there, there were about eight movie theaters nearby, so I felt like I grew up with the images. That's why I want to do something like that. I didn't really feel like 'I want to be a director' or 'I want to be a producer' (laughs), but he said that the university he chose was in that direction.
G:
What was your favorite movie at the time?
South:
I usually liked Akira Kurosawa and Japanese movies.
G:
Some of the past interviews mentioned the movie around this time ...
South:
No, I don't remember. Please steadily.
G:
Of Osakageidai graduates interview in 'is I I I like the original design Toka picture, as the movie also liked the part-time job at a movie theater in his youth' have answered, ' Sunrise founding 30 anniversary planning' of the atom gene Gundam In an interview with director Ryosuke Takahashi, ' Dream' , Director Takahashi asked, 'How was the position of Sunrise when Minami entered compared to other productions?' I was working part-time and saw [Gundam ], [ Ideon ], and Shochiku-type things. [Ideon] burst into laughter. '
South:
You answered terrible things (laughs) 
South:
'Shochiku' is a
G:
Regarding the Osaka University of Arts era, in a discussion with Mr. Takahiro Komori and Mr. Toshihiro Kawamoto held at the time of the Bonds 20th Anniversary Exhibition, 'I learned a lot from being at Osaka University of Arts. I used to do a camera in an 8mm movie, but the moment the click rang, the actors moved, the camera turned, and the sound was recorded. That way, the tension of making one cut together I really liked it. ' Have you ever had any experience at that time that was useful in making anime such as 'Jose' and that you were happy to do it?
South:
It's great to hear stories from various professors when I was in college, and I also made a movie together. The sports club is also a tennis club, so I was only playing individual sports, so I think it was the first time for me to make a movie at Osaka University of Arts to 'gather various people to make one thing'. increase.
G:
What kind of movie were you making?
South:
After all it was a youth movie of the same generation as ourselves. The mainstream of that time, Negishi -san and Morita -san, it Somai because it was the era of the Toka-san, ''ve got to turn long' I do not know why 'I wait until the sun comes out' means that you do not know the Tokawake While shooting (laughs). It was fun.
G:
(Laughs) Then, wasn't it difficult to turn the camera?
South:
It was very……. At the time of my graduation work, I was in the tennis club and had some physical strength, so the director Umeda said, 'I only have a camera in the south,' and said, 'Isn't that good?' If I thought, I would run with my camera all the time (laughs)
G:
(smile)
South:
There will be a stabilizer that stabilizes the camera. In the 8mm era, I made my own simple stabilizer with aluminum and ran around the city of Kobe all the time. 'Is this the role!' (Laughs)
G:
So it was 'only in the south' (laughs)
South:
Yes. But it was fun. The number of departments has increased significantly now, but at that time, I think there was probably no university where so many departments were gathered in one place. Other than that, there are various places. The most interesting part of Osaka University of Arts is 'Let's get it all in one place'. There's art to make a movie, there's music, there's an actor, but they're all there. In the production, I made friends with people from various departments and got involved in film production together. It was interesting not to 'make things only in the department' but to make things with people from various departments in Osaka University of Arts. I think that is very connected to my current job. I've been biting into various parts little by little, so I somehow understand the sound and the design. I later felt that I was studying a lot.
G:
So that's it. That's why I joined Sunrise from Osaka University of Arts, but I couldn't clearly understand 'why it was Sunrise among various animation companies' even after various investigations. Why was it Sunrise?
South:
That is because 'I love director
G:
There is nothing else (laughs). It's easy to understand.
South:
It's easy to understand.
G:
What part of Director Tomino got stuck in your heart and became 'Let's go to Sunrise'?
South:
I think that Mr. Tomino is the first person among me who tried to dig into the person so much with animation, or to draw to the point where emotions are shaken. Of course, I also like the ones drawn by Mr. Takahata and Mr. Miyazaki, but Gundam is said to be an 'animation of shosen toys', but while making animations for children, he is not a child's deception. 'Because my emotions move, people move like this.' I was really stabbed by myself and said, 'Mr. Tomino, I like it.' That's why I decided to join Sunrise.
G:
So that's it. How long have you worked with Director Tomino?
South:
Actually , after helping one production progress with 'Z Gundam ', I made a pilot film, but there is no such thing as 'work together with Gachi'. However, I was very close to him and told him various stories. I'm a very nice person, and I think he's a person who looks at things from the basics.
G:
So that's it. I would like to return to the part of the interview by director Ryosuke Takahashi that I was interested in ...
South:
Yes yes. But I don't remember, why are you interviewing Ryosuke-san? (smile)
G:
(Laughs) Director Takahashi asked, 'Is there a hungry? It's easy to say something like I'm missing something, wanting it, catching it,'
South:
After all, I still feel that 'movies' are very special. What is it? Nowadays, it is necessary to consider social distance and three dens, but in one space, so many people gather just to see the work, and they can see the work in total darkness. about it. What's more, it's special that you pay 1000 yen and 2000 yen. On TV, you can watch it while doing household chores or cutting your nails, but isn't there anyone in the movie theater who cuts their nails?
G:
Everyone has seen it before.
South:
I want to create a special image that can be seen in such a special space. When I went to the preview of this 'Jose, Tiger, and Fish', I could feel that the people who came were somehow excited. That is also the fun of the movie. I want them to see me and make a good face when they come out, and I want them to talk about their work. I think that's the movie. I think I talked to Ryosuke-san when I was planning 'Sword of the Stranger Muou ', so I think I'm talking with that image, but 'Jose' is also Professor Tanabe. I wondered if there was a hurdle as to how to make it into something that can be seen as an animated movie, where we will take care of the original work and make it a long animation of about one and a half hours. Well, I was like going home about once a week saying 'Are you doing it?' Or 'Fast and fast'.
G:
(Laughs) This time it's an anime! Anime! From a long interview published in 2018, 'I was often asked' What was good about making Bonds? 'And said,' No, it's not good, it's hard. ' The leasing company didn't lend me anything. It was hard to rent a copy machine. I wouldn't even let me lease the car. '
South:
It's a ghost, it's just a ghost (laughs)
G:
So, 'There is a used car shop in the neighborhood, I got along with my father there and bought a car. The used car with Starlet and Charade's car inspection is about 250,000. come out. It's a state that is very unthinkable from the current Bonds, but when did you feel that this credit was zero or negative?
South:
That was when '
G:
(smile)
South:
I'm continuing the inefficient act of producing animation. For example, I make a picture in the middle of 'line shooting' to do acoustic work, but basically it is a picture that is no longer needed once it is completed. However, although it was difficult, I like the fact that 'the work remains', so it can't be helped. If you are asked to say the names of all the titles that the company has worked on, it will take some time, but you can say them all. I wonder if there are already about 70 titles. I have a feeling for each title. 'I'm having such a hard time ... but I'm a cute girl!' (Laughs), so I'm really glad I came.
G:
Is the degree of hardship and the degree of hits not so related?
South:
When you say 'nothing at all', it sounds like the hits aren't so focused. That's not the case, but there are times when people say, 'I'm sad that everyone didn't watch it ...'.
G:
So that's it.
South:
In terms of the hits of the work, I am the generation who feels that 'it will spread to include customers.' By the time we entered Sunrise, overseas program sales weren't in the business we are today at all. There was an overseas reaction during 'The Vision of Escaflowne'. So when I was in the movie 'Cowboy Bebop', I went to an American convention for the first time, and I was surprised. I experienced 'It's popular, Japanese animation'. I've heard from people, but I'm basically a person who doesn't trust people (laughs)
G:
(smile)
South:
Even if people say, 'It's really popular,' it's hard to tell unless you actually see it and feel it on your skin. That's why I was going to do a preview of 'Cowboy Bebop Heaven's Door' for the first time at 'Anime Expo', so it was amazing. When people gathered and tried to go out for dinner, he said, 'Mr. Minami, I have to go out to the venue and say hello properly.' 'Well, I'm hungry.' What a carefree saying. I was thinking, '6 or 7 people, maybe that's about it?' It says, 'There are too many people, so I'll turn it twice.' At the end, it was full until midnight. Even after it was over, I was very pleased when I was grabbed by overseas fans and wondered, 'What? What !?' I was really happy, and I felt that 'overseas people are watching so much Japanese animation.' I'm surprised that the number of countries where people can see it is expanding, and I'm most happy that many people can see our animation. I have a lot of thought in my work, and I think it's become a good world to be able to convey that.
South:
As a company, there are people who came from Sunrise and other companies, and the people we are hiring at proper are growing up, so we will create an 'environment where they can make what they want to make'. I think it's our job. When I was at Sunrise, I was allowed to make works by Hiroshi Osaka , Toshihiro Kawamoto , Shinichiro Watanabe , and other generations, so the producers now also create what they want to make. I want to make what I want as much as possible, and I want to prepare the environment for that. That is where it is being made now.
G:
When it comes to 'preparing the environment,' is it the part of the company's structure or the part that is closer to the site?
South:
It means 'to make a situation where you can make a work'. I think it should be a company that can create works with the staff, and it is possible to create an environment where you can create works, including contracts. There is also a place to make the production studio itself. Right now, there is also work style reform. Also, the reason why I talk about interviews and overseas events in this way is that I have to cherish the branding of a production company called Bonds. It's sometimes said that it's a one-man operation, but that's never the case.
G:
Is one-man said so much?
South:
In the first few years, I should be the only one who has been named as a producer. That would mean, 'It's the south that makes the work.' Also, since it was originally a small company, there weren't many departments properly ... From the contract to the producer's work to the production, I had to partition everything at first, so in that sense it's a one-man operation. Maybe it's because I'm the face when I go out with various people.
G:
In 'Jose', as I mentioned earlier, Mr. Suzuki is in charge of the producer at Bonds. How is it from Minami-san's point of view?
South:
'Because I'm a Suzuki producer, I make this kind of film,' I want you to aim for a place where you can see your face as a producer in the video.
G:
In terms of advancing the project, in a
South:
nothing. How did you answer this until now?
G:
I don't think there was an interview that even wrote the contents.
South:
Hmm ... maybe I thought it wasn't in words. When I read the script, there are things like 'I definitely don't want to express this'. However, it's not something I profess so much. That's the part I have as a producer.
G:
It seems that the producer's face can be seen or not seen from the work ....
South:
I think it will come out in the end. In the end, the video that comes up doesn't lie. The director is natural, but there are also parts that the producer is particular about. Depending on the viewer, it may be a boring part, but as long as the customer faces the work we made, we also have to face it properly, so we have to have that feeling. I wonder if there is.
G:
You might question similar to the policy, was broadcast in 2010, ' HEROMAN when', Minami-san 'The more children, the film was licking the child is made I do not do is' that we were talking about It was . What does it mean to 'do not lick a child'?
South:
I think it means that children receive and feel more from the video than they think.
G:
Specifically, did you have any experience that you really felt?
South:
I don't think it was. Why is that the idea? Perhaps because of his serious personality, what he was born with.
(Everyone laughs)
South:
After all, I think that it is big that it is growing up with the video. What you receive from there. A long time ago, even a little animation contained a strong message from an adult, and we were surprised. It's not an anime, but it's Jamila from
G:
That's scary (laughs)
South:
It was pretty intense.
G:
Mr. Minami says, 'I want to leave the work to the producers as much as possible, but I like the production of original works, so once every few years, I will take the lead in planning.' 2014 is ' Space Dandy ', 2018 is ' Hisone and Masotan ', and next is ' Carole & Tuesday ', but at this pace, the next 'South Producer Work (Tentative)' Is the project already in progress?
South:
I'm doing it, but the studio isn't open for a while. I leave it to the producer, so my production studio disappears.
G:
There is no 'South Studio' (laughs)!
South:
'Oh? My company has nothing I can make. There is no place' (laughs)
G:
How many studios does Bonds have now?
South:
Now there are 5 studios from A to E. E is working on ' EUREKA / Symphonic Psalm Eureka Seven High Evolution '. Thanks to you, there are many hit works, especially ' My Hero Academia ' is on TV and theater, but it is not called 2 lines, but it continues for about 1.5 lines, and 'Bungo Stray Dogs' is also KADOKAWA. It's a work that I cherish, and the original work is continuing, so if I think about that and build a line, it means 'I can't do it.'
G:
In an interview with Akiba Research Institute, there was a story that E-Studio was made in accordance with 'Symphonic Psalm Eureka Seven High Evolution'. How do you decide whether to increase the number of studios or whether to increase the number of studios?
South:
I will increase it once the work is decided. That's exactly what the original 'Fullmetal Alchemist' was in the 2nd or 3rd volume, and when I said 'it's interesting', I decided to 'let's do it' and decided to create a C studio. I think D Studio was at the time of ' FULLMETAL ALCHEMIST'. So, Esta is 'Eureka'. But it's difficult to increase it any more.
G:
Wasn't it difficult to incorporate 'Jose, Tiger, and Fish' into it?
South:
I agree. Everyone used to listen to me quite a bit. ...... Is there no choice but to become independent? (smile)
G:
(Laughs) Lastly, it's time, so please give a message to those who watch 'Jose, Tiger, and Fish.'
South:
The result is a very warm film. During the production, I feel that the character Jose has steadily expanded.
G:
I thought it was a very nice work. Thank you for today.
The movie 'Jose, the Tiger and the Fish' is on a national road show from December 25, 2020 (Friday). In addition to PV, the opening scene is also released on YouTube.
Anime movie 'Jose, the Tiger and the Fish' Long PV --YouTube
[Released on December 25] The opening scene of the anime movie 'Jose, the Tiger and the Fish' has been released! !! --YouTube
©2020 Seiko Tanabe/ KADOKAWA/ Josee Project
◆ 'Jose, the Tiger and the Fish' work information
·cast
Taishi Nakagawa
Kaya Kiyohara
Yume Miyamoto
Kazuyuki Okitsu
Lynn
Chiemi Matsutera
Shintaro Moriyama (plan)
Lily (plan)
·staff
Original: Seiko Tanabe 'Jose, Tiger and Fish' (published by Kadokawa Bunko)
Director: Kotaro Tamura
Screenplay: Sayaka Kuwamura
Character draft / comicalize: Nao Emoto
Character design / animation director: Haruko Iizuka
Concept design: loundraw (FLAT STUDIO)
Picture in the play: Nanako Matsuda
Production design: Akihiro Hirasawa, Fumihiro Katagai, Shoko Nakamura
Screen design: Toshihiro Kawamoto
Art Director: Yuji Kaneko
Color design: Hiroko Umezaki
Cinematographer: Go Kamibayashi
3DCG Director: Takuma Miyake
Edited by: Kumiko Sakamoto
Music: Evan Call
Sound Director: Kazuhiro Wakabayashi
Sound production: Sonilud
Animation production: Bonds
Theme song / Insert song: Eve 'Ao no Waltz' / 'Shinkai' (TOY'S FACTORY)
Distribution: Shochiku / KADOKAWA
Production: 'Jose, Tiger and Fish' Production Committee
©2020 Seiko Tanabe/ KADOKAWA/ Josee Project
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