The Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plants 1 to 4 go to the decommissioning furnace, the question and answer summary by Katsumata chairman of Tokyo Electric Power Company
TEPCO's press conference made at 15:00 today, TEPCO's Katsumata chairman from Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station's Units 1 to 4 said that he believes that there is no choice but to abolish it I made it clear that it is the policy of furnace.
Regarding the method of the decommissioning furnace, although the radioactive material will be shielded so as not to be scattered out after it cools down, as to whether the method will consolidate with a sarcophagus of concrete like Chernobyl, It was not at the stage where I could still answer it as being.
Q & A of the press conference held from 15 o'clock to 17 o'clock The contents are as follows.
Nihon Keizai Shimbun:
Currently, there is no president of Shimizu, but how will the role of Mr. Katsumata change from now on? Also, when is Shimizu's return home? The second point is about the prospect of nuclear recovery. I think the situation is going to be prolonged, but how do you view this as the president? Third point, TEPCO has a history of 60 years, but what kind of position does the president think about this accident?
Katsumata Chairperson (Katsumata):
I attend the meeting of the Integrated Headquarters every day, and Shimizu president was absent from the 16th to the 24th, and we are talking with the official residence, including Minister Haita. As a myself, the president thinks that he will take back and take command less often. In the meantime, I think that I will play the same role as I have. The prospect of restoration has been stabilized recently in a situation where cold stoppage has not yet been achieved yet, but if it can not be cooled, stability as a furnace can not be maintained. So, I will focus on it to the utmost. For the tasks after that, we will step closer to what steps we will follow in the future.
Yomiuri Newspaper:
Is there any recognition that Unit No. 4 to No. 4 injected with seawater, will be decommissioned from now. I think that it is a business that is approved by NISA such as seismic design and correspondence of tsunami, but how do you recognize the responsibility of TEPCO?
Katsumata:
Seawater injection is also a big problem, but we believe that we must oblige to abolish the situations of Units 1 to 4 objectively. Our problems with earthquake-resistant design is based on what kind of earthquake / tsunami was like, how we reacted so far, we plan to make an accident investigation committee etc in the future and want to check steadily There.
Nikkei:
Convergence of the situation has been prolonged, and there are indications as to whether the situation is a human disaster including the government's initial operation of TEPCO, how is it accepted?
Katsumata:
As myself, I do not feel the first thing. However, the fact that the work site had to work in situations where the electricity was also disappearing and it was not possible to communicate, so far there was a situation that the one that moved with one button had to be manually I think that there was an unintended delay.
Nikkei:
For future convergence, in addition to cooling the fuel rods, the biggest problem is seawater treatment polluted by a large amount of accumulated radioactivity. I think that there are plans for the use of tankers from the government, but I think that TEPCO has its own ship, but if it is requested by the government to use tankers in the future, I will accept it Is there preparation?
Katsumata:
I would like to make use of anything if contributing to wastewater if I say it at this stage. There are times when it is difficult to put it next to the tanker (nuclear power plant), so we will actively incorporate the good ones while thinking about the conditions.
Weekly Diamond:
The president is preparing for correspondence towards compensation in good faith, is there any preparedness to spill up surplus or shareholder bonus (shareholder dividend?). If you can calculate the damage amount, I would like to ask you along with the total amount.
Katsumata:
A lot of things happened everyday for about two weeks so that it has been somewhat stabilized overcoming it and this week, so in search of more aggressive stability including the final cooling, the question was high There are various problems such as level wastewater problem and salt water problem. Among them, I can not afford to think about the impact of the balance sheet yet, but I think that it will be a difficult situation.
Shinkin Red flag:
I think that the serious accident is the central problem that the cooling function of the nuclear power has been lost by the tsunami and why we did not take measures against this tsunami. TEPCO says it was "unexpected", but losing the cooling function by the tsunami has been pursued so far. Yoshii Hideo, member of the House of Representatives pointed out that if the equipment is swept away by pushing wave (cooling function), it will lead to core melting. The liaison meeting of the resident movement and the Communist Party Council have pointed out that if the coolant is lost in the same way as president Katsumata, a severe accident will result. I do not think that excuses of being unexpected do not pass, but why did I neglect measures to assume a tsunami like this in this way? Whether to admit neglected responsibility.
Katsumata:
I plan to deal with the maximum tsunami by designing it, but I will take seriously that such a situation has occurred, and I would like to investigate and analyze why it was like this. I am very sorry that I became such a situation, I intend to take it seriously.
Asahi Newspaper:
Although the idea that Units 1 to 4 is a decommissioning furnace was shown, how do you think of Units 5 and 6, Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant?
With regard to the tsunami assumption, even in the same Pacific nuclear plant, Onagawa and Tokai are excluded from this huge damage this time. There is something missing from TEPCO?
In addition, although it is said that damages are based on the system, the government is responsible for paying the portion that TEPCO can not bear (burden). Do you seek support from the country?
I think that Kashiwazaki Kariwa assumes countermeasures, but can it be said that it is absolutely safe when an unexpected earthquake occurs?
Katsumata:
Although I do not know the situation unless I do a total inspection, I think that basic functions are maintained except for Units 1 to 4. However, I am thinking about how to respond while social worry and inconvenience this time while asking opinions with the country and region.
Second, compared with other Pacific coastal power plants, I think that the tsunami was small enough to come down to the bottom (south side), but I would like to clarify and clarify it well. (Tokai No. 2 Nuclear Power is South from Fukushima, but Onagawa is North from Fukushima)
Regarding the Nuclear Damage Compensation Law, it is a law where the scheme is not clearly defined especially for exemption from liability, so I think that the government will enact specific laws from now on, depending on this.
Kashiwazaki is also designed to have a margin against the tsunami, but again, as various check items are issued today such as firmly holding the power supply car from NISA, complying with cooling pump, etc. I think that it is important to check and make sure that the insufficient places are satisfied.
TV Asahi:
How do you think about the soundness of the current furnace, including containment containers?
Katsumata:
To be honest, it is difficult to accurately grasp the status of the nuclear reactor, the condition of the containment vessel, the situation of the fuel rod in the pool, and so on. So, where stability is being measured with numerical values such as water temperature and pressure. Therefore, I think that it is an urgent matter to stabilize including cooling. At the same time, I would like to devote myself to how to grasp the situation of the furnace in detail, but since there are problems such as high radiation dose, I think there is still a problem to grasp.
AERA:
In response to the question of whether it is a human disaster, "I can not feel felt the first time", but I was not able to inject seawater more quickly for Units 1 to 4, or a request for rescue to the SDF and the US military I wonder if it was late.
Katsumata:
I do not feel it myself, but I want to check it objectively and check that the bad places are bad.
AERA:
Did not the explosion be prevented if water was injected to Unit 2 and Unit 3 at the time of injecting seawater into Unit 1?
Katsumata:
Although there may be such an idea, I think that I did my best at the scene.
Q:
Did not there be any idea to replace the director of the countermeasure when Shimizu president fell down? During this time, the top of TEPCO collapsed and it was in an abnormal state of absence, why did not you exist at that time?
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Katsumata:
At that time, more than 800 people were in the power plant. Some people were not involved in direct operation, so I thought about withdrawing about half of the people, but I think that there was a misunderstanding around that.
Seawater input was at that time, but I did not hesitate to put it in Unit 1 and Unit 2. The severe situation of power plants continued, and the tense situation continued, including interaction with the head office. I think that I am sorry for the people who worked that we could not afford to consider the environment of the isolation building including that. It is improving at the present time. It is said that 500 people have been staying like a bed lying on the 29th, shielding it around by lead or making it take off in the front room when taking off protective clothes, or reducing the number of people 29 From the day, we will focus on about 200 people, set up the next base at the second power station gymnasium, if there is any necessary work there, go out and improve the situation that the highest command center will be left in the first place It was. I would like to do as much as possible based on the needs of the people who work.
TBS:
"I saw the stability for a while", but I can not believe that it is quite a stable situation as there are a lot of people who have been evacuated. I would like a prospect of when the circumstances that should be evacuated should be solved by about the time.
Also, as President Shimizu returns, I will give another baton, but will I return it to a person who is fallen this time? Does the president have no motivation until the end?
Katsumata:
Ultimately the removal of residual heat is an urgent issue. Since there is also a situation that the ceiling is gone and the radioactivity is coming out (from the spent fuel pool), there is also a countermeasure to such things, taking out fuel from the pool, shielding, so the final I believe it will take quite a long time to stabilize. Among them, I think that it is difficult to say that it is difficult to say at what stage (returnable) the influential evaluation of the people who evacuated, the influence of the area. I think that it is difficult for several weeks as my own opinion.
The president is now in the hospital, but depending on the diagnosis of the doctor how long it will be hospitalized, it depends on what happens, if some response is needed. Until then I will be the whole coordinator.
Yomiuri Newspaper:
The president lowered the head four times at the beginning and made an apology, but what do you think about the management responsibility of the president and Shimizu president again?
Katsumata:
There is something I think, but for the moment it is important to say how to converge and stabilize the current situation anyway. I think that it is my biggest managerial responsibility to put all the power there.
Yomiuri Newspaper:
Last night, Shimizu said that the president had collapsed, but it took half a day until the release. Until now, data is delayed by one day at TEPCO announcement, and there is correction afterwards, but how is the attitude and timing of information communication recognized?
Katsumata:
I am very sorry that mistakes occurred and timing was delayed. Basically, we never hide information. Systematically, the official residence, the Fire Department, the Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry, NISA, the Self Defense Force, and everything together are making reporting meetings. This is a video conference including power station and offsite center.
On the first day, there was an indication that the explosion (report of) of Unit 1 was delayed in the official residence. Speaking of the situation at the time, people went to the scene to see, but there was also a delay due to the fact that the communication means were totally discontinued at that time, saying that it was delayed by one hour. Where information misprints are being taken, measures are being taken to strengthen people while discussing in the general meeting.
Reuters:
How is the chairman looking at the future of TEPCO? Does this have the possibility of falling into debt excess? Also, is TEPCO able to survive in its present form, whether it is possible to continue to take risks at the private sector continuously, such as nuclear power plants?
Katsumata:
In the future, there are many parts of unknown as an important factor. It is unknown what kind of dressing and comfort including the convergence of Unit 1 to Unit 4, how much we compensate for damages, how the law will be relied upon as a specific law ... ... However, in a nutshell I think that the situation will be very severe.
Since the future of nuclear power generation is not in a situation that I can say, I will refrain, but I am very sorry to say that it affects the nuclear power of other companies.
NHK:
Regarding planned blackouts, demand is obviously outpacing supply in the peak of summer, but it is expected to increase supply capacity by the time, specifically tens of thousands of kW etc. in gas turbine. Also, concerning management issues, the stock price fall has not stopped, but there are concerns that the guarantee lacks funds, but the view on that.
Katsumata:
I talked about 46.5 million kw by the end of July, but I am considering the gathering of new gas turbines and what kind of recovery outlook can be done with the recovery prospects. I would like to further maximize it in the future. We are doing a lot with power saving, but we also consider this to prevent planned blackouts somehow.
Regarding management, we are securing funds over 2 trillion yen from financial relationship. This part is a situation where the fuel cost rises, restoration expenses etc. are also required, so it is not enough even at all, so I would like to make efforts so that we will somehow get into a lack of funds while negotiating with the government.
Freelance Uesugi:
Last night I asked Mr. Muto (vice president), but I was told that Mr. Shimizu was not worried about it because the company did not come out and I was told that I was doing well at the integrated headquarters, but I was hospitalized suddenly . I can not accept the explanation of today's afternoon, but was he planning to be hospitalized beforehand? What is the specific condition?
About plutonium that came out of Unit 3, it was said that 4 days ago there was no equipment, not having detected plutonium, but it was announced that the inspection was done on 21st and 22nd, but the result is that it is contradictory ing. When did you report to the government?
Katsumata:
According to Shimizu president, I was always in the meeting at noon and I was surprised to hear that suddenly I was feeling sick. Basically, I was told the doctor 's diagnosis under circumstances such as accumulation of problems such as anxiety, overwork and fatigue so that blood pressure is high or dizziness occurs. About plutonium from Muto.
Muto Vice President:
As for the question about the detection of plutonium, the detected plutonium was collected at 3/21 and 22, and was asked to measure to outside related organizations. I have told you that the measurement result has not come up so far and I think I explained that results will come out in a few more days. It was 3/28 when the result (result) came out. Results came out, I report on the measurement result to the country, I announced it at night, it is circumstances.
Uesugi:
There is a contradiction that Mr. Muto's meeting does not measure, there is a remark to borrow from now on (external equipment) from now on, is there?
Muto:
I intended to tell you that the results will come in a few days.
Uesugi:
I heard that measurements at external institutions should result in results in 22 hours.
Muto:
Alpha ray measurement takes time. We did not have measuring equipment, so asked outside. We gathered samples at 21 and 22 and brought them to external organizations. After that, we made measurements at the other side and got the results.
Uesugi:
I think that it is international standards to measure plutonium when iodine and cesium are detected just after explosion of Unit 3, why did it take time?
Muto:
Since we can measure beta ray and gamma ray more quickly (results are obtained), we first saw the situation of beta ray gamma rays and then did.
Red flag:
Although it is difficult to accurately grasp the condition of the nuclear reactor and the condition of the containment vessel, it is because the (radioactive substance) is leaking from the nuclear reactor, the thing will not improve unless it stops being leaked I wonder if there is any prospect of that.
You say you want to prevent things from getting worse, but what does it mean to get worse? What is worrying and what kind of allowance do you do?
Katsumata:
I think that radiation is coming out of the nuclear reactor as you said. In order to reduce the radioactivity that is leaking it is necessary to cool down the nuclear reactor adequately, so we are continuing water injection. As the amount of radioactivity coming out will increase, the amount of radioactivity coming out will increase, but as water injection continues so that it does not become so, as explained at the beginning, although it is a limited numerical value, the pressure vessel temperature, pressure, water level, etc. change almost stably I think that I am doing it
Nikkei:
Among the government, there are voices of whether TEPCO, which carries tremendous amount of compensation, can survive as a private company, and there are opinions that make it state-owned, but do you think that it can survive as a private company?
Although it was commented as a waste furnace empty, how much is the cost of the waste furnace estimated?
After the nuclear accident, I think that Japan's energy policy can not help being changed largely, but I am planning with nuclear power plants 7 and 8 of Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant, Higashidodo Nuclear Power Plant, but will this be returned to a blank sheet?
Katsumata:
I think whether discussions on nationalization will have various opinions, but we believe that we will make every effort to be privatized.
Depending on how far the waste furnace cost is seen, for the moment it will be said that it will be the cost of shielding to stabilize the furnace, confining the radioactivity for the moment, but it is not yet in a situation to estimate. We still consider various means and want to realize it by some means, so we have not made estimates.
As for the energy policy, I think that it is the focus of such plans as to what extent Japan's energy policy will be considered, and whether we will allow nuclear power to be expanded in the future. I think that it will not become a question of thinking quite now.
Tokyo Newspaper:
According to the tsunami countermeasure, the president says the tsunami level was unexpected. In retrospect, is there any reflection to say that there is a missing tsunami countermeasure against TEPCO? Prime Minister Kan also said that, though there are remarks that the outlook was sweet.
Katsumata:
It caused a catastrophe caused by the tsunami, and I think that the countermeasure was insufficient in such a meaning. Based on the past circumstances and so forth, I would like to fully compile as to whether there are places where measures against tsunamis were not sufficient.
Q:
President Shimizu is Vice Chairman of Keidanren and Chairman of the Federation of Electric Power Companies. What do you think about these concurrent duties?
Katsumata:
I think that it is future task to see how to organize these items as well
ITmedia:
Do you keep minutes at the meeting of the Integration Measures Headquarters? Are you thinking about publishing the minutes if you are doing?
Katsumata:
There is a record. It will be examined as us in the future, but I think whether it will depend on the adjustment as it is owned jointly with the Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry and the official residence.
ITmedia:
Do you think it should be made public?
Katsumata:
I have not seen what it is.
Q:
Apology to the prefectural people and response to the prefectural governor. Governor Sato is a person promoting nuclear safety as a nuclear power promotion fighter from now on, but he is encouraging the SDF without receiving an apology from TEPCO, there is discriminatory treatment for TEPCO, but what Do you have any opinion?
Katsumata:
It is not a position to say such a thing. Because I was told that I wanted to apologize, "I would like you to do my best for convergence of the whole."
Q:
It is not to the prefectural governor to apologize but to the citizen. Why did not apologize to the residents on site? Do you have plans for the future?
Katsumata:
When saying to Fukushima citizens, there is also something to do with apologies to Fukushima citizens with anything. I am doing something to governors, related municipalities, parliament, but I would like to think about it if there is another way.
Q:
While I was asked for support to financial institutions, I would like to see if Shinkin Central Bank is included
Katsumata:
I have not confirmed so far. I would like to reply from the office later on.
Asahi Newspaper:
As an organization, you said that the chairman is unattended as a title, but what do you think of the disadvantage of having no president as an organization? If there is nothing to do, it will talk about why it came.
What message do you have as the chief executive officer for all TEPCO employees, family members, and cooperating companies? Because it is paying out, is it to say that you work because there is a contract?
Katsumata:
Since the president is the chief executive officer in charge of business execution, I think that obstacles will come out if it is absent for a long time. The president has already issued the message.
CNN:
This accident is not only in Japan, but the world is worried. Is there a message for the world? Also, although it is damaged, what are the impacts on other countries?
Katsumata:
I am very sorry that I am very concerned about foreign countries and inconvenience. We are also making efforts to disseminate this through means of various means and also to let our overseas know the current situation and others.
At the moment, I think there are few direct implications, radioactive contamination and so on. However, I am thinking that I am very sorry, including saying that I am giving insecurity such as importing and exporting various agricultural products greatly.
Japan Internet newspaper:
At the time of the accident, the president was reported to have traveled to China traveling with media executives. (This cost was) Todoke held?
You said you are staffed at evacuation centers, but there is no single telephone in Minamisoma city, it is said that employees are not even coming up?
Katsumata:
Everything is not TEIBO's burden.
Japan Internet newspaper:
Did you say that you had some travel expenses of media executives?
Katsumata:
Perhaps they are putting out more than their own.
Japan Internet newspaper:
Is it editorial committee or editorial committee?
Katsumata:
Mass media OB research group, study group. Because this is private, I can not name it
Q:
Is not it not private?
Is this an adhesion between the press and TEPCO?
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chairperson:
(About the matter of Minamisoma city) I would like to confirm with the mayor.
Mainichi Newspaper:
There is a story saying that Prime Minister Kan came because the vent was delayed, but what is the fact?
Muto:(Respondent unclear)
Regarding vent, we got instructions to make it early, but in the absence of power supply and no lighting, it is just operation to move the switch if it is normal, but you go to the site and operate , I had tried my best because the operation to connect the power supply was necessary by hand, but as a result it took time to vent and I think that it was like what I pointed out .
Asahi Newspaper:
Did not consider considering puncturing the ceiling at Units 1, 3 and 4 to let hydrogen gas escape? It seems that it was done at Unit 5 and Unit 6 as soon as possible.
Muto:
When hydrogen goes into the building, it accumulates in the upper part, and if it explodes with some cause it will damage the building. Based on that experience, we made a hole for Unit 6 of Unit 6 when it got by chance (when hydrogen accumulated).
Asahi Newspaper:
I heard that hydrogen gas generation is an expert if it is understood immediately.
Muto:
To open a hole in the ceiling requires a certain preparation, so it was done from the place where it was made.
Asahi Newspaper:
Did not you make it in time for Unit 3?
Muto:
As a result it means that the hand did not arrive.
Q:
Shimizu resigned from President?
Do not you think about appointing a substitute as a board of directors?
Katsumata:
I have not resigned. We have not made such discussions at the Board of Directors.
Yomiuri Newspaper:
I would like to ask about fuel.
One is about the remaining nuclear fuel. Although there is a pool and a core, the chairman touched on what to do with the fuel of the pool, but what exactly do you do? The crane moving the fuel above is blown up. Is it possible to contain the furnace as it is in a furnace, and what kind of means are there if so, how long will it take? In the meantime, do you have to keep evacuating life?
The second thing is substitute fuel, fire power. Although the thermal power is now considering the gas turbine, the gas turbine is an urban type and it can be flexibly installed in various spaces, but it is not suitable for long distance electricity transmission, so its location is limited. Is there a concrete plan? I wonder if there are cheap fuels, but is there a consideration to introduce Orimulsion which had been rising to the top when the best mix was discussed?
Katsumata:
(Nuclear fuel) There are what is in the fuel pool and what is in the furnace. The pool 's ones are standing in the water, but there are parts without the roof. As for how we can retrieve this, normal cranes can not be done, so we are considering an alternative method. We need to consider how the building is sound, how to design the facility and how to put it out, so we are considering ideas about the concept. I think that the time is still a little smaller than the furnace because the pool can be cooled if it contains water. I think that it is the first decision to bring the furnace steady and to bring it to a stable state, since it will not cool unless water is put in it. For anything, I'm putting my full effort into cooling, anyway, it is difficult to be forever.
Regarding the gas turbine, there are places where the site has surplus in the thermal power plant, and installation is planned for installation there. I think that it is impossible for Orimulsion (launch target to increase electricity generation) considering that it is summer. We are considering the launch of existing LNG or gas turbine.
Q:
How do you think about the amount of CO2 emissions supplemented by the thermal power from the state so far?
Katsumata:
I think this will increase. I'd like to think about the environmental problem at another stage, but since we are bothering you due to blackouts
(Late answer unknown due to voice stop)
Weekly Hyundai:
Comment on stock price plunge. Also, there is a sense of unfairness in planned blackouts, but are not you considering total volume control?
Katsumata:
Regarding the stock price, we are strictly accepting the severity of the market. On that basis, I believe that it is the start to converge nuclear power steadily, including recovery of stock price.
As for total regulation, since there is a peak in the summer from 13 o'clock to 14 o'clock in the coming summer, we would like to cooperate in clearing the peak.
Kyodo News:
Although it was said to be a decommissioning furnace about Unit 1 to Unit 4, the difficulty accompanying the waste furnace and its schedule feeling.
Katsumata:
The difficulty is to first cool down to cool down, and then seawater is injected into the furnace as entanglement of the facility, so seawater is considerably more salty, how to remove this. This leads to earlier corrosion including piping etc. because of salinity, so it is necessary to take countermeasures. Radioactivity from the storage container comes out of the building, there is a problem of how to control how this is contained. In the end, we shield it, we are considering this in parallel as well
Sometimes it is a matter to say how to take out the fuel that is in the pool and store it elsewhere. Everything is a big task and we are considering all the power and it is hard to tell the schedule
Q:(Questioner can not catch it)
Does TEPCO be informed that there is no nuclear power plant in the sales area, does it mean that we are trying to prosper our company by pressing risks on rural areas? Is not it a shameful thing?
Katsumata:
Some thought as though it was pointed out, although we considered it to the metropolitan area somehow, it is quite difficult to include it on location. That is why I ask you to Fukushima, Aomori, Niigata prefecture and make it there. I am sorry to have caused the accident like this time.
Free Murakami:
Do you feel like giving priority to compensation even if you destroy TEPCO for those who were affected by the accident this time?
Katsumata:
I would like to include apology as well as maximum compensation. As a whole, it becomes an idea including what will happen in the framework of the law.
IWJ Iwakami:
Although it showed a policy to proceed to the decommissioning furnace, it does not appear unless it shows how this goal is shaped. There is also a roadmap, but what is the concrete final form? In Chernobyl the sarcophagus is the final containment, is it supposed to be such a thing or is it possible to completely stop the scattering of radioactive materials by such a goal in the end? Would you like to have such an area, please indicate the goal for the decommissioning furnace from now on. How long will it take, this is how long it will take.
Regarding the restoration of the cooling system, it is reported that the connection of the power supply was successful and there is a feeling of relief, but it can not be understood whether the cooling system will work simply by saying that it is energized. If the mechanical system is out of order, how can you devise? In the worst case, if repair and repair can not be made in time, what is the pressure regulation etc when bringing the pump from the outside? How are you considering it?
Regarding monitoring points, are not there too few numbers? The classification of various exams may be too few numbers. Should not the people's anxiety be measured not only outside the premises but also on a wide range of radioactive substances, which is in the scattering of radioactive materials, by their own responsibility?
Three points, I would like to ask.
Katsumata:
Regarding the goal of the decommissioning furnace, as explained earlier, various challenges, starting with cooling, whether preventing radiation leakage or preventing shielding How to do the shielding? Whether it is a step.
Iwakami:
Do you think about consolidating with concrete?
Katsumata:
We are considering other methods in various ways, and there is nothing fixed up to be said.
Cooling is difficult as it is pointed out that pumps are used in the water and it is necessary to check them one by one to operate. By saying that there is a high level of wastewater in the basement of the building, we first drain it, then clean it up and check it. The basic line thinks about cooling with such a thing, and also thinks whether it can cool by other methods at the same time.
Iwakami:
Are we considering if the mechanical failure was unrecoverable?
Katsumata:
Besides pumping, we procure a wide variety of things, including saying that there is not a substitute method for other things. Although the monitoring post says that it was few as it was pointed out, monitoring has started at 30 places from around this time, systematically coordinating with NISA.
Iwakami:
How can we secure its detection method and numerical value?
Katsumata:
I wonder whether Nagasaki is going to see it.
Iwakami:
Will people be able to return to the surroundings when they are in the final form, or will they be a no-entry area like Chernobyl?
Katsumata:
That is the future, and we are considering while considering the influence of such things to the area etc., etc.
Toyo economy:
There were voices that they wanted to remain as civilians in spite of the lack of funds. Do you have such an idea, for example, to make the organization slimmer or to review things you are investing? Tax is used if it is public money injection.
Although it is said that we will increase the amount of electricity generated by using thermal power, is there a possibility of bouncing back on electricity charges in the high oil price?
Katsumata:
Since it is uncertain as to how much funds are necessary, it is in a situation where the outlook can not be done. In the future, we will take countermeasures while taking this into consideration, but as a private company we are willing to make efforts such as cost reduction etc.
It is difficult to reflect on the electricity charge at the high crude oil price, there are places to think about the fuel adjustment clause, what other things to do, so I wonder if it will be how to respond by making various cases .
Asahi Newspaper:
As for the Fukushima Daiichi about the Fukushima Daiichi in the future, there was also a story that if the country admits nuclear power as it is, there was also a story to judge first, but I think that both Fukushima and Higashi-dori were planning ahead, but are there any ideas to turn it into fire power?
As for the driving of Kashiwazaki Kariwa, from an ordinary person I think whether it is like the situation that the hostage was taken as nuclear driving or planned power outage, but what do you think?
Katsumata:
Regarding Kashiwazaki Kariwa, we are also worried from the local community, and as a company we are considering various countermeasures, such as how to cope with the double and three cooling, and if the local people can understand and briefing sessions I am doing.
(Fukushima Daiichi) No. 7 No. 8 etc, although there are countries, understanding of the prefecture and the local becomes becoming a very important factor, so at present it will be very very very, so what we will do in the future I think that it will be packed up. We are not planning for firepower and so on immediately.
Free Hatakeyama:
800,000 people were engaged in accident processing at Chernobyl, but how many people are expected this time this time? Do you think that it is not necessary much to secure how much? Are there plans to investigate other harmful substances such as PCB?
Katsumata:
It is difficult to tell how much effort it will take at this point as it is the stage of discussing what kind of method the waste furnace will be.
Nikkei Newspaper:
There is a fear that domestic plutonium will be torn down by the accident, and Rokkasho village also can not operate because of accident continuation, what will be the nuclear fuel cycle route? Is there any way to get nuclear power to play in Japan? To separate nuclear power plant only from the private sector.
Katsumata:
Regarding the cycle route, I think that it is about the policy of the whole country. We believe that discussions will be held in that the possibility that reprocessing of Pluthermal and Rokkasho will start will probably be delayed based on this time.
As for the regeneration of nuclear power, now I am including the reproduction on the country base and my head is not extended so far, so I will consider it as a future issue
Reuters:
I think that export of nuclear power plants was supposed to be a pillar of infrastructure export, but what is the prospect for how this will affect us this time? Also, it is said that compensation to the affected people is the maximum, but what range? I think that various influences such as people who bought water which I usually did not buy in addition to the obvious person who can not do the agriculture and the fishery have come out, but what kind of place you think is what I am now In the range understood at the time.
Katsumata:
I wonder whether nuclear exports will probably shrink considerably overseas as well. Vietnam is symbolic in Japan, but it is not at a stage where we can see what will happen in the future.
Although it is a matter of compensation, I think that it will decide how the damages compensation law will be applied, and what kind of appearance it will be while consulting with the government.
Nikkei:
There is a report that Prime Minister Kan presented the recognition that it is necessary to review the energy policy as well. Please let me know your opinion whether it is inevitable that the nuclear power plant center will be changed.
(President Katsumata) said that it is necessary to promote nuclear energy as "three E" of the president, that is environment, stability and economy, but is it still thought so?
There is a long time in the TEPCO top, is there something you regret that you should have done such a thing in order to prevent such accidents from happening?
Katsumata:
Although it is a policy review, I think that it is very difficult to tell me how to position nuclear power at this point.
What are the problems of the environment, the stability supply problem, the problem of efficiency, how can we understand here and convert it into natural energy, what will happen by relying on fire power? I am wondering whether it will be debated firmly.
"Three E" thinks in Japan that scarce resource is necessary as myself as a well-balanced index.
In order to prevent such a thing from happening, is it really our reflection material? Would you like to use the accident investigation committee etc., in the future, where the problem was, what it was and how to fit it in future measures think
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A large amount of tax has been introduced, and many people want to overcome this problem. I think that it is necessary to have a common recognition as to what kind of problems are present in the process chart and what kind of problems should be improved on a daily basis, but they will be released to the public and released to the public Is there a schedule?
Katsumata:
I would like to take it out. As of now, there are some uncertainties in the means and the schedule being fixed, so I hope the public, as soon as possible, will be able to make something that can contribute to the lives of everyone who is evacuated, Not.
Q:
I do not mind that I do not know what I do not know, I think that it will be important information. It is anxiety that what is the problem and what TEPCO does not understand as a problem is uncertain.
Katsumata:
First of all it is the cooling of the turbine, the pump is in the water, the first thing is to clear these and cool down quickly.
It is boiled in the furnace and contains salt, which will speed up corrosion, how do you remove it? Then how to reduce the radiation and how to keep it out.
And finally we must think about shielding.
There is also a problem of how to withdraw the fuel in the furnace and in the pool, and we are working on each, but we have not been to the point where to go this way indefinitely.
NHK:
There was a statement saying that it will be delayed on the basis of this time due to the nuclear fuel cycle, but in consideration of necessity and safety, why do you think it will be delayed based on which one?
Katsumata:
Although I got an understanding and understanding about pluthermal, there are still some remaining. Based on that, there are some difficult parts if you can understand when you give a new explanation. The processing of Rokkasho is also moving to a halt for the time as Aomori prefecture, and thinking about such a point, I think that it is physically delayed. How will we go about this nuclear fuel cycle will be considered in the Nuclear Power Policy Outline.
response:
Please tell me about the schedule for raising the price with a planned blackout
Katsumata:
Trends in price increases, is it a prospect?
There is no schedule now what this will happen in the future. I do not mean I'm thinking about saying that the price is rising from the time based on the uncertainty about what kind of expenses will be.
Q:
Price raise is inevitable, is not it? Can you assert that you do not?
Katsumata:
That is quite difficult. It may or may not be possible to absorb self-sufficiency.
Q:
Do you plan to review the overseas nuclear power development plan as it is or to review it.
Discussions on nuclear power development plans in Europe, the United States and emerging countries are taking place due to the accident, but as a party to the people involved in future plans of nuclear plants in other countries.
Katsumata:
I am thinking about the South Texas project. Even in the future, there is doubt about whether to promote or continue this, and we think that it will be difficult to continue this as it becomes more difficult to finance.
Problems in Europe and the United States of the world, this problem has caused a lot of inconvenience and worry even to domestic nuclear power producers so to speak, but I am aware that it is a big problem affecting emerging countries in Europe and the United States . I was sorry for such a thing.
I would like to clarify why the accident occurred through the World Nuclear Power Association Association and the IAEA.
Informative newspaper:
Some people are exposed to workers and cooperating company employees, others have contaminated water. I thought that the preparation was too thin, such as the value of the emissive material from the exhaust stack could not be increased, but there is an indication that the imagination for people being exposed as the president was not enough. In the disaster prevention business plan, accident management, accident investigation procedure manual, was the item to detect plutonium in emergency was set?
Katsumata:
There was a work that was congested in a very bad condition, three of them exposed, and there was also a mistake in making a presentation. This was a serious reflection, and there was discussion at the meeting of the integrated headquarters. While taking this into account, although we have difficulties, we are planning to take various measures, including making our instructions from TEPCO more clear. I humbly take what I pointed out and want to make it a reflection material.
Muto:
As for the measurement of plutonium, it takes time, so from the viewpoint of responsiveness from the viewpoint of readiness, at the beginning when the accident progresses, rather than judging something while measuring it, it is better to measure gamma rays and beta rays that can be measured immediately I think that it is certain.
Katsumata:
Regarding Rokkasho, there are problems of melting furnace and so on, but as a process, instructions for emergency inspection are given based on the accident caused by the tsunami, but properly deal with the contents and carry out the work as necessary I will go.
Nico Nico Douga:
When did you talk to Prime Minister Kan recently about nuclear power plants? What kind of story are you talking about?
Katsumata:
I was wondering if the phone was received frequently and that seawater should be injected into the freshwater injection at last, such as recent phone calls.
Because there are heads of staff of the Prime Minister in the headquarters, it is a mechanism to talk with the Prime Minister through such person indirectly.
Q:
In operation at the site, there are movements such as introduction of robots from overseas, but should we recognize that the convergence of the final situation ends only by human work?
Katsumata:
There is a story saying that we can provide a robot from the United States because people can work at the radiation source in a very difficult place, but because we can not do this, there is a story saying that we will provide robots from the United States, while people do not get in high dose I think that you can try something that you can not do.
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