Possibility of Reddit blocking third-party apps, new API makes 7 billion requests per month, about 2.8 billion yen per year


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In the new API announced by the online bulletin board Reddit in April 2023, it became clear that the number of API requests made by third-party clients will be limited and charged. Christian Selig, who develops the Reddit client app ' Apollo ' for iOS, complains about the pricing of the new API.

???? Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing. Bad news for third-party apps, their announced pricing is close to Twitter's pricing, and Apollo would have to pay Reddit $20 million per year to keep running as-is. : r/apolloapp
https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/13ws4w3/had_a_call_with_reddit_to_discuss_pricing_bad/



Creating a Healthy Ecosystem for Reddit Data and Reddit Data API Access - Upvoted

https://www.redditinc.com/blog/2023apiupdates



Reddit may force Apollo and third-party clients to shut down, asking for $20M per year API fee - 9to5Mac

https://9to5mac.com/2023/05/31/reddit-may-force-apollo-and-third-party-clients-to-shut-down/

A developer says Reddit could charge him $20 million a year to keep his app working - The Verge
https://www.theverge.com/2023/5/31/23743993/reddit-apollo-client-api-cost

In April 2023, Reddit said it would 'ensure that developers have the tools and information they need to continue using Reddit safely, protect user privacy and security, and comply with local regulations.' ``We will introduce a new premium access point for third parties who need additional functions, relaxed usage restrictions, and expanded usage rights,'' he said, announcing that commercial use of the API would be charged. At that time, it was revealed that the new API will be effective after a 60-day notice period.

When Mr. Selig contacted Reddit, he received a response that Reddit's new API required $ 12,000 (about 1.67 million yen) for 50 million requests. Apollo, developed by Mr. Selig, made about 7 billion requests in April 2023, so under the new API, about $ 1.7 million (about 236 million yen) per month, $ 20 million (about 28 million dollars) per year 100 million yen).

Also, according to Selig, even if the company decides to keep the service only for users of Apollo's paid subscription, Apollo Ultra , which costs $1.49 per month, the average number of requests per day for users is 344. So, in the current situation where it is necessary to pay 2.5 dollars (about 350 yen) per person per month to the API, it will result in a deficit.

``I am deeply disappointed at this price for the new API,'' Selig said. On the other hand, Reddit claims that 'the pricing of the new API is a reasonable price that is realistic,' and 'it will not be like Twitter's API .'



“Our pricing is as reasonable as possible based on how often our users use it,” said Tim Rathschmidt, director of consumer and product communications at Reddit. “Reddit will continue to develop third-party client apps. We will work with you to improve our services.”

On the other hand,it was reported that Twitter, which also decided to charge APIs, blocked access to free APIs to external services in order to promote the transition to paid APIs. The news media The Verge said, ``The current situation of Reddit is very similar to the situation when Twitter blocked access to the free API,'' and third-party apps that did not subscribe to the paid API can be blocked. suggesting about sex.

Twitter, which has made the API chargeable, was concerned that it would affect public accounts that post news bulletins and disaster-related tweets, delaying the sending of emergency notifications.

Twitter's API restrictions stop public services such as weather warnings and develop into a big problem - GIGAZINE



Regarding the uncertain future of third-party Reddit client apps, Selig said, ``My hope at this point is that Reddit will listen to feedback from me, other developers, and the community, and make an arrangement that makes both parties happy. It's just a matter of getting to.'

In response to Mr. Selig's remarks, many users have expressed that they will leave Reddit if Apollo or other third-party client apps stop working due to the introduction of paid APIs, saying, 'Third-party client apps If it is blocked, it will also leave Reddit like a third-party app left blocked Twitter.'

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